White does look nice in that backglass! I'm pleasantly surprised to see how often leaving the displays white is working out. In Embryon it seems to pick up on the "bubble" reflections & the white light behind the guy.

It's probably more of the picture than it is in person, but if the white is too bright for your buddy & he wants it toned down a bit -- just remind me next time you place an order for anything & I can throw a set of neutral filters in that will tone those down some.

Shopping Cart Link is up @ http://www.pinitech.com/products/ballystern_conversion_led_display.php

• I'm extending the discounted pricing that I was doing for the 2nd Batch of Kits until I get a chance to refine instructions a bit more.
• BLUE digit sets are very limited in quantity, 2-3 sets left
• For right now, you'll have to email/contact me with which color filter you'd like if ordering a WHITE digit set (or if you're able to add comments in the Paypal cart during checkout, that works too)
• I've added new color filters to the list of color filters available for WHITE digit sets. These are still being tweaked. I've also tried representing the colors as best I could with HTML colors, but note that's just for some ballpark visual representation and not completely representative of actual color.

Wow that looks pimp with accenting the backglass & playfield with different colored lamps -- and then with the displays "not orange"

Are you going all one color or going to split blue and green? I like the green for sure, since you have a lot of blue lighting going on already (which looks sweet). Whatever you decide on, snap a picture.. definitely want to get that in the gallery!

Awesome, that finally gets a picture of a red set in the gallery! Thanks for taking the time to take all the pictures you have.

I'm thinking Red for Dracula. Would also look nice in Strikes & Spares as in the earlier mock-up.

You must be a pro at building these out by now lol. I like the army of displays on top of the machine

Hey on the photo gallery, do you guys want me to put "photo credits"? I can list Pinside names.

Update: DONE

Yep, I like the red there on Dracula.. and doesn't look too shabby on Strikes and Spares either!

Seriously, thanks for taking the time to take all these pictures! Those have been added to the gallery along with the Silverball Mania with WHITE + blue filters.

I've been wanting to do a better half-and-half comparison of native BLUE versus the WHITE with blue filters. In-person I think the color itself is pretty close, just that the native blue is more blinding Pictures kind of show that too with the blue aura around the digits on the displays on the left.

My plan is basically to add any photos that anyone posts, doesn't matter if it's the same game/color combination that's already up either. I figure adding multiples for the same game & colors should help average-out different lighting conditions, camera settings, etc. Only catch is, I'd like all the displays to be matching (that is, unless some wacky combo looks nice in a machine lol). I'll link a few of these comparison pictures on a separate page too.. native blue versus WHITE with blue filters, original high voltage plasma display versus WHITE with amber filters, etc.

Yep & now that I have additional filters for the WHITE sets as an add-on, you can pick up a neutral filter or blue filter for the BLUE sets if you wanted to tone down the brightness and/or hide the white segments.

Been thinking of some ways to encourage people to post more pictures here to fill up the gallery.

So how's this -- post or send me a picture of your completed displays in a machine with backglass installed & get an additional free filter set the next time you place an order. One set of filters per picture of different game posted. You can use the same displays you built out if you have multiple games to try the colors in. Max of 3x free sets of filters. So if you go posting 20x pictures, while I'll certainly appreciate it, you only get 3x additional sets of filters Just remind me next time you place an order and I'll hook you up. I don't want to have to keep track of that myself lol. Anyone that's already posted a picture with a complete set of displays already qualifies.

Also, now that I have a closer match to plasma amber, for anyone that already placed an order for WHITE with amber filters (now calling "deep amber") wants to try the "plasma amber" just let me know next time you order anything & I'll throw that in for free. The colors aren't *way off* but the "deep amber" is a bit darker and more orange. I really like the "deep amber" as a full set, but if you're wanting to mix-and-match with original plasma displays I've now got a pretty spot-on match to color IMO. The "plasma amber" also matches native amber led digits.

Yep, got the "additional filters" option added to the product page earlier this week. You can now add as many additional filters as you want. If you're ordering a blue set you could even add a neutral or blue filter to the order.

There's now a text-box to type in the color for the free filter that comes with the kit, so no need to PM or email me. If you leave it blank though, I'll be contacting you Only reason that's a text box is Paypal limits their drop-downs to I think 10 items and I'm at 11 color options right now.

Here's some comparison photos of native blue digit displays & WHITE with blue filter. Also of the "plasma amber" and "deep amber" versus original plasma glass, where you can see the deep amber is slightly darker.

http://www.pinitech.com/retrofit/compare.php

I'll say this -- it's incredibly hard to get nice photos of these displays with the filters. I'm finding the colors look washed out unless you knock shutter speed way down and then it's difficult to catch any numbers on the displays.. mainly due to the refresh rate I think. Will keep trying to get some better pictures going forward -- maybe just at the bench with digits locked-on. At least these photos kind of show that the color-matching to the plasma displays is pretty good.

Yeah I'd say! It's great taking displays with plasma glass that toasted and turning them into something worthwhile again.

Nice pictorial overview of the process, thanks for posting! Looks like the first display turned out great, very cleanly converted.

Haha yeah I joked about that at the beginning of this project. I know for a fact a few of the people that were building displays on this thread had bought some extras off of eBay, so it's happening. Ebay sellers can thank me lol. Even some of those "untested" lots -- sure enough times they're non-working anyway, but if the photos don't show the glass is all burnt, etc.. who knows, maybe you get some good plasma displays. And if not, as long as you're happy with the price you convert them.

I also have heard a few people say they picked up some dead displays at pinball shows.

I have to laugh though, just at the thought of someone asking someone else if they have dead displays. The looks people must be getting sometimes would be priceless And the seller is probably thinking .... "idiot."

Got it added to the Gallery! Thanks for the picture! And if you get a picture with lights dimmed or off in the room I'll swap it hehe.

Woohoo! Thanks John, been hoping to replace the current pic of the partial set in the gallery. Great pic too!

No one broke away from the relatives to pull a bunch of resistors off displays this weekend?

BLUE DIGITS coming in end of this week, so won't be any shortage of those very soon.

And, might as well announce it now -- I've got native AMBER DIGITS coming in as well! Just got notified those were done and ready-to-ship. Probably have those in by end of next week. The AMBER DIGITS are pretty much a spot-on match with original plasma color. And the WHITE DIGITS with plasma amber filter are pretty much spot-on with both of those. Pricing on display kits with AMBER DIGITS will be slightly less than BLUE DIGIT displays most likely.

Still offering November Discounts on conversion kits. Those will probably stick into December as well as I'm having a hard time getting back to the instructions.

Just playing around some since someone with a Centaur is going to be putting some red filters in & I know that's popular on that game. And I was just wondering if you could get away with anything other than WHITE / RED. I know who would do that?

I'd probably go with RED or WHITE still. But I don't see why you couldn't go with another color either. Maybe just not Magenta on this one Centaurs don't like pink!

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In the back of my mind I thought that might be the case. I'll throw in a LIME filter with your other order and you can snap some pictures hehe.