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Interest / Advice on CFTBL Speaker Panel LED Mod Re-Run

By thompso9

11 years ago


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#569 7 years ago
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...they were great, just not sure how this taillight mod differs from the one on this thread. It's a bit expensive at $400, so I wanted to check if anyone has purchased this before I go ahead and buy it. Also hoping to get a bit of an education on how these two mods differ.

I agree... Joey at Pinball Decals was great to deal with, and shipped this mod out to me quickly and well packaged. That said, I'm pretty disappointed in the mod itself. At $400, I was expecting a lot more of a polished product. Installation required a lot of re-engineering to get it assembled and working.

A friend of mine has the mod from the OP of this thread, and I liked it so much that I wanted one too. Unfortunately, they differ quite a bit. First, the replacement MDF speaker panel board is not painted black, so you see the MDF colour through the DMD window and the small speaker mesh. As such, I had to mask the LED's and PCB and spray it black myself.

The metal hooks that hold the speaker panel in place in the machine had to be re-drilled, otherwise they would have broken one of the LED's and shorted out on it. I had to wrap the hook in electrical tape to prevent shorting on both terminals of the LED.

The Pinball Decals kit doesn't include replacement speaker panel mesh, so be prepared to drill out the holes in your originals for the LED's, or use side-cutters to snip the mesh to the shape of the "Starlight" letters, star, and Drive-in sign. Also, there is nothing to diffuse the LED's, so you end up with a single spot of light rather than the light filling the image. This is not a problem whatsoever in the tail lights (they look great), but on the Moon especially, all you get is a blue dot in the centre of the Moon while the rest of it is dark. The Starlight letters also suffer from the same problem, but the Moon is very obvious and just looks cheap.

There were several other issues with alignment of bolt holes, connectors, and even short 2 of the 4 spacers that are included parts.

Basically, it's a project. I understand that pins weren't made at a Swiss watch factory, and that every hole isn't perfectly aligned. It's just that at $400, the Pinball Decals mod should be AT LEAST AS GOOD as the one made by the OP for a lot less money, and it's far from it. Bill Ung's saucer mod for AFM, or Ingo Kramer's TZ clock board are great examples of unbelievable quality in a more expensive mod. This one has nowhere near the level of quality.

As I said before, I have no problem with Joey or Pinball Decals, but I couldn't recommend this mod to anyone at that price. For what you actually get, it's probably about $300 over-priced. If the OP does another run of his, I will buy one from him... and I've already got one installed. My advice, save your money and wait.

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