im installing a remote battery holder on my world cup and wanted to know how to identify the positive and negative with the original holder already clipped? there does not seem to be any indication on the board itself?
thanks
blake
im installing a remote battery holder on my world cup and wanted to know how to identify the positive and negative with the original holder already clipped? there does not seem to be any indication on the board itself?
thanks
blake
Williams World Cup, the System 3?
If so, here's a pic of a System 4 MPU, which is similar. The negative side goes to the connection that touches the large ground plane on the perimeter of the board.
http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:WMS_sys4_MPU_board.JPG
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Quoted from ChrisHibler:Williams World Cup, the System 3?
If so, here's a pic of a System 4 MPU, which is similar. The negative side goes to the connection that touches the large ground plane on the perimeter of the board.
http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:WMS_sys4_MPU_board.JPG
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Chris Hibler - CARGPB #31
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thanks just what i was looking for. and we are sure positive goes to the trace connected to the diode?
blake
Quoted from Blake:we are sure positive goes to the trace connected to the diode
Well...I am.
And I've done hundreds of them.
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Quoted from ChrisHibler:Well...I am.
And I've done hundreds of them.
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thx a bunch chris!
And if in doubt, use a meter with power on before you solder on the wires.. You will see +5 (or something close) if you chose the right pins.
Quoted from Raff:se a 4 battery holder and solder the diode in the battery holder
...with the banded side of the diode pointing toward the positive connection.
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i installed it exactly like the first picture in the link showed. mine is a 3 battery holder. whats the benefit of the four with diode installed?
thanks
blake
Quoted from Blake:whats the benefit of the four with diode installed?
No benefit other than you can see that there is a blocking diode installed. The diode stops the batteries from being charged when the machine is ON. So on a three battery pack you will just have a diode in line with the positive wire. The banded side nearest the board the unbanded side nearest to the pack.
Quoted from Blake:i installed it exactly like the first picture in the link showed. mine is a 3 battery holder. whats the benefit of the four with diode installed?
thanks
blake
Your board is trying to charge whatever batteries it finds but typically you will not be using rechargeable batteries and you can damage regular batteries if you let it try to charge so the solution is to add that diode, it stops the charge.
Quoted from Raff:use a 4 battery holder and solder the diode in the battery holder
Why are there 3 wires soldered to the board in this picture?
My guess, the 3rd is a ground wire to bulletproof old Gottliebs. It goes back to the frame of the power supply.
Has anyone replaced the three batteries in an Addams Family. If so can you post a picture so I can see how to do this. Thanks.
Quoted from DiggerPSU:Has anyone replaced the three batteries in an Addams Family. If so can you post a picture so I can see how to do this. Thanks.
Your TAF is a WPC-089...
See this... http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC#Relocating_the_battery_from_the_MPU_board
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Quoted from RoyF:Why are there 3 wires soldered to the board in this picture?
As noted, that's a ground mod wire.
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I'm looking to add a remote battery holder to my Whirlwind. Can anyone provide some tips and pictures to help? This is my first time doing this.
Thanks
My two cents, if you intend to install a battery remote instead of an NVRAM:
1. Run the wiring for the remote all the way from the MPU to the coinbox, and leave the remote in or on your coinbox. That way, when you need to check or change your batteries, you'll only need to open the coindoor instead of moving the machine, removing backglass, possibly damaging backglass, etc.
2. Install molex connectors on the remote wiring 6-8" off the MPU. That way, if you ever need to remove the MPU or send it out for servicing, the remote is easily disconnected.
Quoted from Pmaino:How much harder is it to install NVRAM?
Not to bad if you can solder . FWIW nvram will not hold your time and date.
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