(Topic ID: 65478)

Ken's guide to installing bill acceptors on WPC era machines


By KenLayton

6 years ago



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    #51 56 days ago

    Is there a stackerless model that fits in the large lower cutout on a modern stern style coin door?

    Can anybody tell me why it wouldn't work to cut up a stacker if I leave the bottom toothy connector part intact, making it think the caddy is in place but the bills just fall into the coin box?

    #52 56 days ago

    What do we do when life gives us questions we cannot answer? Get out the dremel and wreck some shit. For science.

    Frankencaddy was a success. At first I tried shaving off the top so the caddy would still basically function, but i neglected to leave enough material above the side doors to keep the rigidity in the cartridge. This probably would have worked in the model with the top door as it wouldn't have a problem. After that I cut it so the mounts were intact and the bottom with the window and "caddy full" indicator wire were intact. I believe this is as bare bones as I can take it. It seems to feed bills fine and just drop them down when I hold it in my hands, it ate about 50 bux no problem. I'll report back on how it does in baywatch. The issue I see as possible is the arms with the mounts flexing inwards towards the top and catching the "pusher". If I ever make a 2.0 it will have the full front frame.
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    #53 56 days ago
    Quoted from Chalkey:

    Why wouldn't it work if that little window piece at the bottom is in place?

    Take the stacker off and try it.

    I have. And cut the stacker down. And all kinds of attempts.

    Have fun.

    LTG : )

    #54 56 days ago
    Quoted from Chalkey:

    Is there a stackerless model that fits in the large lower cutout on a modern stern style coin door?

    Modern Sterns now come with a Happ Controls coin door which has a single full sized cutout hole towards the bottom of the door. This allows *any* bill acceptor to fit regardless of it's faceplate. So stackerless and stackered acceptors fit the same hole because the entire face fits through the hole.

    #55 56 days ago

    It's a modern style door bolted onto a Sega baywatch

    #56 53 days ago

    Any advice on installing dba on a star trek the next generation? From what I've read Dixie narco 88X5011 will work?

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    #57 53 days ago

    You need a Mars/MEI installation, with a "compact" bezel. 120v. You n3eed a model that matched model number: AE2[3-8][1,4]1 With a 200, 300 or 500 magazine.
    (So, An AE2811 would work, as would a AE2341, etc.)
    These would mount in the lower slot.

    You can get an older VFM4 to put in the stop slot.

    #58 53 days ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    You need a Mars/MEI installation, with a "compact" bezel. 120v. You n3eed a model that matched model number: AE2[3-8][1,4]1 With a 200, 300 or 500 magazine.
    (So, An AE2811 would work, as would a AE2341, etc.)
    These would mount in the lower slot.
    You can get an older VFM4 to put in the stop slot.

    Ae 2411 u5? I have a similar machine and found a 2411 u5... The compact bezel mask is the 2431 I believe

    I think a 2411 u5 should be the same dimensions... Anyone have experience with this?

    #59 53 days ago
    Quoted from LovelyCoCoNuts:

    Ae 2411 u5? I have a similar machine and found a 2411 u5... The compact bezel mask is the 2431 I believe
    I think a 2411 u5 should be the same dimensions... Anyone have experience with this?

    A '3' in the third digit is the "AL4 & VFM5 Upstacker. All available bezels are:
    0: VFM Upstacker
    1: Compact Upstacker
    2: Flush Mount Upstacker
    3: AL4 & VFM5 Downstcaker
    4: Armored Compact Upstacker
    5: Fitted Upstacker
    6: Combo Upstacker (Side Swipe)
    7: Dual Opening - Compact
    8: Compact Downstacker
    9: Combo Upstacker (Front Swipe)
    A: 4-in-1 Bezel, No Setback
    B: 4-in-1 Bezel, Setback
    C: VFM High-Visibility
    D: Compact High-Visibility
    E: CVS Downstacker (EU Only)
    F: CVL Downstacker (EU Only)
    G: 4-in-1 (CA Only)
    H: 3-in-1 VFM
    J: Fitted Upstacker - Clear
    K: ? (Quoted from MEI's own document.)
    L: Easichoise4 (US Only)
    M: Easichoise4 (CA Only)

    I am pretty sure that the VFM4 faceplate will not work in the upper slot, because Mars units still require a stacker, and the stacker won't fit when mounted as a downstacker.

    #60 53 days ago
    Quoted from NotoR1ouZ:

    Any advice on installing dba on a star trek the next generation? From what I've read Dixie-Narco 88X5011 will work?

    The Dixie-Narco (a.k.a. Ardac) USA3 (a.k.a. 88X5011) will work, but it needs the 12 pin to 9 pin adapter dongle cable which is normally included in the goodie bag Williams provided when the machine was brand new. Someone may or may not have removed that adapter from the machine. I have attached a picture of what that adapter looks like.

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    #61 53 days ago

    Thanks for the quick response. Unfortunately I dont have the 12 to 9 pin adapter. Where is the best place to buy a dba, ebay doesn't seem very good.

    #62 53 days ago
    Quoted from NotoR1ouZ:

    ebay doesn't seem very good.

    HaHa. Good one.

    This guy sells refurbished ones that look like brand new and a new sheet of decals comes with. And he'll change the 500 stacker to a 300 for you if you ask.

    ebay.com link

    I've gotten 5 so far and all look like new and have had no issues in commercial service.

    LTG : )

    #63 53 days ago

    Thanks, I appreciate it!

    #64 53 days ago

    Just purchased it and requested the 300 stacker, thx again.

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    #65 46 days ago

    Tried it, doesnt fit even after removing bezel. Brackets do not line up.
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    #66 45 days ago

    Ebay auction said u5 this is a u7 he sent, is that why it fits poorly?

    I know I need a compact bezel but this unit may not even have space for the bezel.

    Is there a difference in u5 to u7 fitting?

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    #67 45 days ago

    On that door, you need to file/grind/nibble the top edge of the hole about an eighth to 3/16 of an inch taller. Then the snout (bezel) will fit.

    #68 45 days ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    On that door, you need to file/grind/nibble the top edge of the hole about an eighth to 3/16 of an inch taller. Then the snout (bezel) will fit.

    Yeah we might take a dremel fo the door.

    #69 45 days ago
    Quoted from NotoR1ouZ:

    Is there a difference in u5 to u7 fitting?

    The "U5" / "U7", while stamped on the model number, can be changed.
    The "U" means it's an upstacker. The "5" and "7" is the magazine size. The magazine can be swapped easily. He likely sent a 500-bill magazine even though the model number is U7. The "5" and "7" would not affect how the acceptor fits in the DOOR. It may/would stop you from closing the door once installed.

    The U/D would specify which hole in the door it fits into - "U" would be mounted in the bottom hole. A "D" (downstacker) would fit in the top hole.

    #70 45 days ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    The "U5" / "U7", while stamped on the model number, can be changed.
    The "U" means it's an upstacker. The "5" and "7" is the magazine size. The magazine can be swapped easily. He likely sent a 500-bill magazine even though the model number is U7. The "5" and "7" would not affect how the acceptor fits in the DOOR. It may/would stop you from closing the door once installed.
    The U/D would specify which hole in the door it fits into - "U" would be mounted in the bottom hole. A "D" (downstacker) would fit in the top hole.

    The door closed and the stacker isn't in the way. He installed a 300 for me instead of a 500 per my request.

    #71 45 days ago
    Quoted from NotoR1ouZ:

    The door closed and the stacker isn't in the way. He installed a 300 for me instead of a 500 per my request.

    Yup. So you have a "U3" and not a "U7" or "U5".

    #72 45 days ago
    Quoted from Coyote:

    Yup. So you have a "U3" and not a "U7" or "U5".

    I appreciate the info I'm new to this but determined to make this work!

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