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Insert ghosting on new stern Game of Thrones

By Hougie

8 years ago


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#60 8 years ago
Quoted from EvanDickson:

It's reasonable to hold a manufacturer accountable for stuff that arrives DOA, or stuff that experiences sudden catastrophic failure when fairly new.
It's not reasonable to hold a manufacturer accountable because when you zoom in on a picture of a plastic bit, you can see a white patch at the edge of that piece of plastic.

Sure, production variances and all that. Still, it sucks to get one of the machines with a problem and affects resale value down the road.

#65 8 years ago
Quoted from CaptainNeo:

it shouldn't effect value that much. People that know what they are doing, know it's not a big deal and nothing you can do about it. If you pay more for a game with non ghosting, you are pissing money away, because the game you just bought might be ghosted by the time you get home, or a week later.

If all games have it, I would agree with you. However, I have a lot of games from all eras and if they have ghosting on the inserts, it hasn't been bad enough for me to notice.

I would certainly offer less for a game with a noticeable problem or avoid the game all together. I enjoy fixing mechanical problems but dislike cosmetic repairs. Spot clearing does not seem trivial to me but maybe it is.

#76 8 years ago
Quoted from CaptainNeo:

since I restore fields for a living and see 100's of fields. I've seen it from everyone and nearly every game. I've seen TZ's, MM, CC, CV, TOTAN, TOM, NGG, STTNG, IM, LOTR, TAF, PM, Stargate, Shadow, Freddy...you name it..i've seen them with ghosting.
Like Vid says. Climate has a big part in how much expanding and contracting the wood is doing in ratio to the plastic. This does play a part.

I don't doubt that any game from any manufacturer can have this issue. I'm just saying that most games don't. For example, of the 15,000 TZs produced, what percentage has problems with ghosting inserts?

#79 8 years ago
Quoted from CaptainNeo:

I'll take those "shitty" ghosting games off their hands.

Sure, but you're a pro at fixing that stuff. You also said:

Quoted from CaptainNeo:

Unlike B/W. their clear is foggy. So when it chips out, it's a real PIA to fix. because that fog effect is very difficult to copy and get the inserts looking uniform. It's a huge process and gets insanely expensive to restore.

Doesn't sound like something I would want to tackle, so I should avoid older games with the problem.

Quoted from CaptainNeo:

50% from as many fields that i've gotten. door panels have it happen a lot. as well as the bolts up in the mini playfield.

Oh man, I'm going to have to go home and take a closer look at my games and report back.

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