Lots of talk recently on how much our pinball community is ready for radical change when it comes to new manufacturers like deeproot leading the charge into new levels of pinball innovation.

My view is that our pinball community as it stands is deeply rooted in the history of pinball machines and are not ready for radical changes all at once regardless of how much sense they might logically make.

I define radical change as cabinets that look completely different with thinner backboxes or with no backboxes at all for example. Multimorphic is an example of pure innovation with fantastic ideas and a future vision of what pinball could be but without respect for the fact that many of us love pinball BECAUSE of its ties to our childhoods and it’s history so too much change too fast can be a big turnoff when it comes down to buying. Other innovations like game saving with QR codes that you take a pic of with your phone so you can resume later or cameras etc are fine.

Any mechanical innovations and gameplay mechanics are welcomed of course! This is where the pinball battlefield will mostly be won or lost - not with different looking cabinet designs!

I’m writing this out of concern that if deeproot is trying to push too many innovations too quickly, it could be detrimental to their success as we’ve seen in the sales numbers of recent companies that tried to reimagine too much of what we have come to love too quickly. I want tons of innovation for this hobby and hope deeproot hits it out of the park. To do this, in my opinion, I want tons of innovation on the playfield but not something that doesn’t look like the pinball I know. For that, like machines without backboxes for example, I need more time.

What are your thoughts about how much radical change our community is ready for?

Let’s be respectul please (and those of you who just want to derail and troll this thread and shut down real discussion, please visit another thread thanks - hilton please, this means you as you are not personally the dictator who owns all pinball conversation).

Notice how he moves fast to shut down conversations. What kind of a person thinks that “this conversation has been had it’s entirety”?

If pinside is still a place I can still create a thread and have a conversation with other pinsiders can someone let me know? It’s becoming the kind of place where I don’t feel welcome anymore because of a few that troll, derail and want to shut down conversations and moderators seem to be ok with this. Is this what moderators think is best for pinside, a future where few feel welcome and conversations that are controlled ny the same few?

Again, I think these discussions have not been completed but rather have just begun.

Moderators, or others, can someone tell me how to ban a troll like this from detailing all my threads? It really is hurting my perception of pinside as an open place for discussion.

Is pinside being hosted in China now or something? Who the f&ck do you think you guys are determining who can make threads or what threads are good or not? Let threads that people make live or die by themselves. If you find this thread so uninteresting then drain it yourself.

How unAmerican it is to try to shut down open conversation. Shameful.

Anyway, let’s get back to the topic at hand.

And thanks for the votes - interesting to see where our community stands

Hah right

OK, for the Americans that constantly try to shut down conversation like communist China, have some respect.

Ok, hopefully the master troll of pinside is done now and we can continue... thanks for the votes

Would make sense but he’s so bad as a troll that he posts every second post on many threads now making conversation on pinside difficult or impossible.

And seems like he had full backing by pinside staff now since they do nothing about it. Really damaging pinside if you look at how he posts