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Indiana Jones Restoration ... "It's not the years honey; it's the mileage."

By Ricochet

4 years ago


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#501 4 years ago
Quoted from Flipper_McGavin:

That is helpful. I dont remember seeing a threaded anchor on my standoff to screw into the t-nut, it may have broken off and was jury rigged at some point in the past. Have to double check when i get home, but now it makes sense

There are two long standoffs. One is 3-1/2” for the left ramp that has 6-32 female on both ends and this one 3-1/4” for the POA bypass ramp that has an 8-32 stud on one side and 8-32 female on the other.

#502 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Got my back board mirror design done...
Now to get it cut !![quoted image]

#503 4 years ago

Planes are installed and connected aaaaand the playfield is done ! I’ve only to install the subway when it arrives and to connect my back light when it’s done.
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#504 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Planes are installed and connected aaaaand the playfield is done ! I’ve only to install the subway when it arrives and to connect my back light when it’s done.
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#505 4 years ago

I think you got the mounting bracket installed incorrectly. That’s the reason the fighter is tilted to the right. Stand by for confirmation...

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#506 4 years ago

This is the correct mounting bracket position. Turn yours around 180 degrees.

I’ll PM detailed pics....

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#507 4 years ago

Proper flight path ... thanks my friend!!

I also found that I hadn’t hooked my diverter to the coil!

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#508 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Proper flight path ... thanks my friend!!
I also found that I hadn’t hooked my diverter to the coil![quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

That’s more like it!

#509 4 years ago

Man, this is looking great! It's so close now.

Seeing your playfield all put together made me realise something I've never noticed before...

My left ramp is installed too far forward. Always has been. You can see that the "Lite Jackpot" mount is at least a good half-inch forward from the slot in the "Raise Jackpot" plastic next to it that it's supposed to fit into.

My guess is that someone far in the past stripped the original two holes at the front of the ramp that fasten the flap down, so they just moved the ramp forward. That's why the long spacer at the back that connects above the INDY lanes requires me to really pull it far forward to attach the ramp (at the cost of often cracking the red hood plastic). Probably also why I get speedy balls flying out of that wire rail all the time - everything is just slightly off from where it's supposed to be.

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#510 4 years ago
Quoted from AaronZOOM:

Man, this is looking great! It's so close now.
Seeing your playfield all put together made me realise something I've never noticed before...
My left ramp is installed too far forward. Always has been. You can see that the "Lite Jackpot" mount is at least a good half-inch forward from the slot in the "Raise Jackpot" plastic next to it that it's supposed to fit into.
My guess is that someone far in the past stripped the original two holes at the front of the ramp that fasten the flap down, so they just moved the ramp forward. That's why the long spacer at the back that connects above the INDY lanes requires me to really pull it far forward to attach the ramp (at the cost of often cracking the red hood plastic). Probably also why I get speedy balls flying out of that wire rail all the time - everything is just slightly off from where it's supposed to be.[quoted image]

Oh wow ... It may very well be a bit forward but what is making it look even worse is the light jackpot arc/plastic is actually in the wrong place ... it should be back on the rear two screws that hold the IR brackets. It is also bent over wicked badly

#511 4 years ago
Quoted from AaronZOOM:

Man, this is looking great! It's so close now.
Seeing your playfield all put together made me realise something I've never noticed before...
My left ramp is installed too far forward. Always has been. You can see that the "Lite Jackpot" mount is at least a good half-inch forward from the slot in the "Raise Jackpot" plastic next to it that it's supposed to fit into.
My guess is that someone far in the past stripped the original two holes at the front of the ramp that fasten the flap down, so they just moved the ramp forward. That's why the long spacer at the back that connects above the INDY lanes requires me to really pull it far forward to attach the ramp (at the cost of often cracking the red hood plastic). Probably also why I get speedy balls flying out of that wire rail all the time - everything is just slightly off from where it's supposed to be.[quoted image]

Wow! That’s bad! If IJ is your keeper, you should strip the playfield and fix this issue. Fix the stripped holes and put the ramp where it belongs. Another option would be to buy a repro from Mirco and do a total swap

#512 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Oh wow ... It may very well be a bit forward but what is making it look even worse is the light jackpot arc/plastic is actually in the wrong place ... it should be back on the rear two screws that hold the IR brackets. It is also bent over wicked badly

I believe that's actually intentional, because in the default position the POA will hit it when it's at it's rightmost tilt. When I originally got the machine, I know I moved it to the correct position, but I moved it back after I realized what was happening. I do recall reading this as a "recommended" fix over a decade ago to fix the POA proximity problem.

Also, strangely, I took the ramp off and there are no other holes (stripped or otherwise) under the flap. That means it was installed in this position at the factory, but it's clearly further forward than where I think it's supposed to be.

#513 4 years ago
Quoted from AaronZOOM:

I believe that's actually intentional, because in the default position the POA will hit it when it's at it's rightmost tilt. When I originally got the machine, I know I moved it to the correct position, but I moved it back after I realized what was happening. I do recall reading this as a "recommended" fix over a decade ago to fix the POA proximity problem.
Also, strangely, I took the ramp off and there are no other holes (stripped or otherwise) under the flap. That means it was installed in this position at the factory, but it's clearly further forward than where I think it's supposed to be.

Well there ya go! You know when I was adjusting my POA I was looking at that clearance ... made me go hmm ?

#514 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Oh wow ... It may very well be a bit forward but what is making it look even worse is the light jackpot arc/plastic is actually in the wrong place ... it should be back on the rear two screws that hold the IR brackets. It is also bent over wicked badly

And yeah, now that you mention it, it is bent pretty far back! But, you know what? Call me crazy...but I think I prefer it this way. It's actually at a much better viewing angle than if it was sticking more upright.

#515 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Proper flight path ... thanks my friend!!
I also found that I hadn’t hooked my diverter to the coil![quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Those planes look awesome

#516 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Well there ya go! You know when I was adjusting my POA I was looking at that clearance ... made me go hmm ?

To give more clearance to the POA there are a couple of tricks.

One is to move the metal ramp next to the poa as far left as possible and the second trick is something a lot of people don’t realize mostly because it’s unseen.

Under the poa there’s the harness. That harness is constantly hitting the plastic directly below the poa. This prevents right side movement. I had a picture, I’ll look for it...

What you have to do is remove the poa, note where the harness is hitting the plastic below which is not even visible, then you dremel out or cut out a bigger space for the poa harness so it moves freely without restrictions and allowing your poa to move freely as well. I fortunately caught this when my playfield was still on the rotisserie....

#517 4 years ago
Quoted from KornFreak28:

To give more clearance to the POA there are a couple of tricks.
One is to move the metal ramp next to the poa as far left as possible and the second trick is something a lot of people don’t realize mostly because it’s unseen.
Under the poa there’s the harness. That harness is constantly hitting the plastic directly below the poa. This prevents right side movement. I had a picture, I’ll look for it...
What you have to do is remove the poa, note where the harness is hitting the plastic below which is not even visible, then you dremel out or cut out a bigger space for the poa harness so it moves freely without restrictions and allowing your poa to move freely as well. I fortunately caught this when my playfield was still on the rotisserie....

I actually did rearrange the harness under the POA playfield ... the plastic protector aggravated this condition.

#518 4 years ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

Those planes look awesome

Yes they do! These aren’t even the best that KornFreak28 makes!!!

#519 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Yes they do! These aren’t even the best that kornfreak28 makes!!!

Thanks for saying so! Ricochet’s planes are early version planes. I now have better painting techniques, better camouflage techniques, pilots and even Indy figures are added thanks to my good friend Jazzbouche. Of course, my good friend Ricochet here contributes to the plane project in a big way by manufacturing all the led harnesses for the fighter planes. Here’s a couple of them

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#520 4 years ago

Here is my pile of playfield junk... there is more than this actually... all the roll over micro switches and lamp sockets... just a ton-o-crap. Some stuff made it through the polishing process before I realized linkages and stops were worn or peened over. Some stuff went through the polishing but didn’t come out to my standards for this project. Very few original fasteners were used... we’re taking no more than what you can count on one hand.

I wanted the new experience at the end of this absurd journey...
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#521 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Here is my pile of playfield junk... there is more than this actually... all the roll over micro switches and lamp sockets... just a ton-o-crap. Some stuff made it through the polishing process before I realized linkages and stops were worn or peened over. Some stuff went through the polishing but didn’t come out to my standards for this project. Very few original fasteners were used... we’re taking no more than what you can count on one hand.
I wanted the new experience at the end of this absurd journey...
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Are u selling? What’s wrong with the right ramp and ruins?

#522 4 years ago
Quoted from KornFreak28:

Are u selling? What’s wrong with the right ramp and ruins?

Ruins are busted... Right ramp I’ll probably keep as well as the drop mechanics

#523 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Ruins are busted... Right ramp I’ll probably keep as well as the drop mechanics

Just double checked the right ramp ... it’s cracked around the screw holes at the bottom.

#524 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Well there ya go! You know when I was adjusting my POA I was looking at that clearance ... made me go hmm ?

Just to follow up on this, there's a noticeable divot in the wood under my POA where it used to hit the metal bracket for the Lite Jackpot plastic. When installed on the lower screws, it has full clearance, but it's not the original configuration, so do with that what you will. (Also note that this position doesn't play well with the "Raise Jackpot" plastic)

I'd definitely watch for this when you're running the POA - make sure it's not bumping that bracket, because it may be limiting the POA range or chipping the wood and you might not even notice.

#525 4 years ago
Quoted from AaronZOOM:

Just to follow up on this, there's a noticeable divot in the wood under my POA where it used to hit the metal bracket for the Lite Jackpot plastic. When installed on the lower screws, it has full clearance, but it's not the original configuration, so do with that what you will. (Also note that this position doesn't play well with the "Raise Jackpot" plastic)
I'd definitely watch for this when you're running the POA - make sure it's not bumping that bracket, because it may be limiting the POA range or chipping the wood and you might not even notice.

Oh I’m aware ... If I have too I’m going to move it... My issue is the plastic... to do the move ... it needs to be cut... I would want it to look good

#526 4 years ago
Quoted from KornFreak28:

Thanks for saying so! Ricochet’s planes are early version planes. I now have better painting techniques, better camouflage techniques, pilots and even Indy figures are added thanks to my good friend Jazzbouche. Of course, my good friend Ricochet here contributes to the plane project in a big way by manufacturing all the led harnesses for the fighter planes. Here’s a couple of them [quoted image][quoted image]

Those planes are simply awesome...are they still available? If so please shoot me a PM

#527 4 years ago

On hold for a bit ... I need to get my reflector cut for the backboard. I was able to get it to my buddy to CNC... in before the lock-down ... so its going to be a bit before I can get back there. I'm not going to put the playfield in the machine until its 100% done... had I not decided to do this back-lit board I would be up and running by now.

We've got to do our part to flatten the curve. Pinball can wait.

#528 4 years ago

Well it’s official... the absolute last thing I needed to purchase for this has arrived! Stainless playfield hardware from Mantis.

They will go on when I’m preparing to put the playfield in the cabinet.

Still on hold
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#529 4 years ago

Mmm stainless steel mmm...

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#530 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Mmm stainless steel mmm...[quoted image]

What’s keeping you from finishing this restoration?

#531 4 years ago
Quoted from KornFreak28:

What’s keeping you from finishing this restoration?

+Reflective Mirror
+Subway

#532 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

+Reflective Mirror
+Subway

Oh yeah....

#533 4 years ago

Got my mirror sample cut today !!!

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#534 4 years ago

Mirror is cut ! I didn't expect this but my very good friend has come through again!!! Now you can see what I’m after here. The mirror will be mounted on 5/8” standoffs on the back board. The led strips need to be trimmed and aligned.


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#535 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Mirror is cut ! I didn't expect this but my very good friend has come through again!!! Now you can see what I’m after here. The mirror will be mounted on 5/8” standoffs on the back board. The led strips need to be trimmed and aligned.

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IMPRESSIVE!!!!!

#536 4 years ago

Quick test ...

Led strips are taped to the mirror. They are not 100% aligned and are off the mirror surface in some cases. I’m not quite ready to commit yet... I’ve got to work out the wiring layout.

Also... tons of ambient light in the room as you can see.
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#537 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Quick test ...
Led strips are taped to the mirror. They are not 100% aligned and are off the mirror surface in some cases. I’m not quite ready to commit yet... I’ve got to work out the wiring layout.
Also... tons of ambient light in the room as you can see.
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Looks awesome....well done

#538 4 years ago

#539 4 years ago

Took some pics with the DLSR instead of the cellphone...

There is less ambient light ... and when its in the machine it will be even less.
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#540 4 years ago

What leds are those? Impressive....most impressive -Darth Vader

#541 4 years ago
Quoted from KornFreak28:

What leds are those? Impressive....most impressive -Darth Vader

Sunlights from comet ... I’m tellin’ ya they are the sh**! Especially when backlighting plastic.

#542 4 years ago

They look awesome! You don't think they are too bright as to bluff some of the art? Hard to tell from pics

#543 4 years ago
Quoted from KornFreak28:

They look awesome! You don't think they are too bright as to bluff some of the art? Hard to tell from pics

Not one bit. It’s really hard to get a pic to show what it really looks like

#544 4 years ago

Here is the entire playfield with lit with GI using comet 2 SMD sunlight.

Almost there .... once I get my apron wireform back and my subway ... I’ll be ready to finish it !!
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#545 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Here is the entire playfield with GI illumination using comet 2 SMD sunlight.
Almost there .... once I get my apron wireform back and my subway ... I’ll be ready to finish it !![quoted image]

That is SWEET right there!

#546 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Here is the entire playfield with GI illumination using comet 2 SMD sunlight.
Almost there .... once I get my apron wireform back and my subway ... I’ll be ready to finish it !![quoted image]

Looks incredible...u should sell that lost plastic mod

#547 4 years ago

Welp... still waiting for my subway (not a big deal)... I had some extra hands so I decided to plunk it in!!! Also added a sheet of PDI glass

I decided to make this a three person job.

I put a folded towel over the exposed edge of the cabinet where the lockdown receiver is mounted to protect it. I installed the mirror/art protectors (these are totally worth it!).

Two of us held each side of the upper end of the playfield ... it is the heaviest and requires proper positioning to get it right. The third person held the safety brackets in the normal fashion.

We walked the playfield into place the two of us at the upper end lowered it into the cabinet and placed it as far into the cabinet as possible to be sure the slide assemblies were able to rest on the pivot nuts, (you need to get past the latches).

Not gonna lie, this was very stressful... I was sweating like crazy... super stressed out. The protectors were the thing that made this not so bad. Without them I think I would have made a boo-boo or two. This fully populated playfield is DAMNED HEAVY! I'm reminded of a quote from another move... ""Is it heavy?" ... "Yeah." ... "Then it's expensive, put it back."

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#548 4 years ago

Now that this is mostly together... it struck me when I was looking at it.

You see like about 1/3 of the entire playfield once everything is on there... tis' quite funny.

Things to do...

1. Complete and organize back box wiring.
2. Install Color DMD (LED version)
3. Install LED OCD board and configure it.
4. Install subway bracket and apron wireform
5. Setup pinsound shaker

#549 4 years ago
Quoted from Ricochet:

Now that this is mostly together... it struck me when I was looking at it.
You see like about 1/3 of the entire playfield once everything is on there... tis' quite funny.
Things to do...
1. Complete and organize back box wiring.
2. Install Color DMD (LED version)
3. Install LED OCD board and configure it.
4. Install subway bracket and apron wireform
5. Setup pinsound shaker

I'm looking forward to hearing how you program and like the pin sound shaker

#550 4 years ago
Quoted from PtownPin:

I'm looking forward to hearing how you program and like the pin sound shaker

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