Ok, if anyone can think of a solution, Please PM me... Thanks
Thanks to a fellow pinsider, Yoyoma, I have the springs and pins for the illuminated targets. YouWho!!!
But now I can not figure out how to attach the spring, target, and pin? Any help? I am a little slow so pictures would be great.
Thanks
I put my old man glasses on and seen the holes to insert the springs. After that not to bad to get it all together.
Quoted from TZ:Ramps...need ramps...any one reproducing these?
You can still find NOS right ramps from Australia I believe.
Quoted from TZ:I didn't see any for sale. I do need the left plastic one if any one has any leads.
Until they get repro'd those are not available.
When the ball shoots out of the Turbo scoop how fast should it come out? I was expecting it to fly out of there but it just, sorta, shoots out nothing special.
Quoted from t2:When the ball shoots out of the Turbo scoop how fast should it come out? I was expecting it to fly out of there but it just, sorta, shoots out nothing special.
It should whip out of there pretty quickly.
Quoted from t2:When the ball shoots out of the Turbo scoop how fast should it come out? I was expecting it to fly out of there but it just, sorta, shoots out nothing special.
The turbo shoots the two balls out faster during multiball than when it just shoots a single ball out at other times. On many I500s, the two balls comes careening out of there so fast that they fly off the wireform.
Quoted from gweempose:The turbo shoots the two balls out faster during multiball than when it just shoots a single ball out at other times. On many I500s, the two balls comes careening out of there so fast that they fly off the wireform.
This is also how mine works. If I shoot a ball in the turbo and lock is not lit, the ball will be kicked out on to the ramp to the right flipper...but much slower than when multiball starts. When the two balls are kicked out for multiball they come FLYING down the ramp.
Listen carefully when the single ball launches out of the turbo. If you hear a slight click or the turbo ocassionally jams up hard, you can try this fix: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i500-turbo-mod-rather-a-fix
I am getting credit dot saying "Turbo error sensor opto error" and don't know where to start. Manual does'nt list a switch #. I am never getting a multi ball in the turbo scoop the 3 green arrow that say Lock never lite up even after shooting up the left side. New to the game and not sure of the rules.
Quoted from Schwaggs:Listen carefully when the single ball launches out of the turbo. If you hear a slight click or the turbo ocassionally jams up hard, you can try this fix: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i500-turbo-mod-rather-a-fix
ok what thickness for the washer? i have this trouble...
Quoted from t2:I am getting credit dot saying "Turbo error sensor opto error" and don't know where to start. Manual does'nt list a switch #. I am never getting a multi ball in the turbo scoop the 3 green arrow that say Lock never lite up even after shooting up the left side. New to the game and not sure of the rules.
It is likely either the opto that notes if a ball is in one of the turbo slots or the opto that monitors the rotation of the turbo. First check under the playfield for loose wires in that area. Otherwise, you are removing the left ramp and the turbo to look for detached wires to the optos or faulty optos. (or displaced optos)
Go into the switch test and then either rotate the turbo or put balls into the turbo slots to see if those register, that should help narrow down which opto is the problem.
Quoted from t2:I am getting credit dot saying "Turbo error sensor opto error" and don't know where to start. Manual does'nt list a switch #. I am never getting a multi ball in the turbo scoop the 3 green arrow that say Lock never lite up even after shooting up the left side. New to the game and not sure of the rules.
Also, be sure that the switch on the opposite side is making (above upper flipper). You must complete the loop and if it doesn't make, you will never qualify for a lock. I had this problem with mine when I first bought it (loose wire on the switch).
Quoted from DavidC:ok what thickness for the washer? i have this trouble...
I used one standard thickness washer and it improved the situation dramatically.
All the swiches seem to check out except for #38 right loop is closed and does not register in switch test but would that affect the turbo? Also when machine is 1st turned on the turbo runs through a cycle where it goes fast then slows down then goes fast and then slows down 3x, is that normal? Would the right scoop switch keep the lock arrows from lighting?
My turbo only spins fast, slows down and stops once at start-up.
Did you try the turbo test in diagnostics?
Based on the error, it seems that your turbo opto is the problem.
I did manually push the turbo blade in switch test and the opto checked out ok. When playing a game and the ball goes in the turbo it fires it out. Does the right loop switch need to be triggered to light the lock arrows?
To light the lock arrows, you need to shoot the left orbit when the green lock rectangle is lit that is in the opening to the orbit. That will light the green arrows that point to the turbo. The ball will only stay in the turbo once the green arrows pointing to the turbo VUK are flashing.
Quoted from t2:All the swiches seem to check out except for #38 right loop is closed and does not register in switch test but would that affect the turbo? Also when machine is 1st turned on the turbo runs through a cycle where it goes fast then slows down then goes fast and then slows down 3x, is that normal? Would the right scoop switch keep the lock arrows from lighting?
Yes. You must make the left loop switch and it must go around and make the right loop switch in order to qualify a lock.
I found three broken light up target housings today on ebay for $25. Bought them immediately for the rods and springs!!
I'm willing to help a fellow Pinsider and sell you one (or just a spring or rod) if anyone is in a bind looking for one...
Quoted from Schwaggs:My turbo only spins fast, slows down and stops once at start-up.
Did you try the turbo test in diagnostics?
Based on the error, it seems that your turbo opto is the problem.
Opto is not testing in switch test and turbo will not lock 2 balls. So sounds like a bad opto?
Quoted from t2:So sounds like a bad opto?
Or mis-aligned, but definitely opto related!
Quoted from Pacer:Or mis-aligned, but definitely opto related!
Took opto off and cleaned and all seems to be working.
Now when the turbo shots out the 2 balls for multi ball they almost seem to come out at the same time? (very close to each other as they come out) That sound right? Also when you lock the first ball does the turbo continue to spin until 2nd ball caught? Sorta loud and distracking but did have the glass off.
Yes, sending two balls together is the norm.
I don't remember continuous spinning after the first ball. I recall lock, spin while the matching audio call out is running, and then stopping when the audio of the spinning stops.
However, I sold mine 6 months ago, my memory may be off.
Quoted from t2:Took opto off and cleaned and all seems to be working.
Now when the turbo shots out the 2 balls for multi ball they almost seem to come out at the same time? (very close to each other as they come out) That sound right? Also when you lock the first ball does the turbo continue to spin until 2nd ball caught? Sorta loud and distracking but did have the glass off.
Congrats on the fix!
Yes, continuous spinning of the turbo when one ball is locked is normal.
Yes, on multiball start, both balls come out virtually together on mine. Wait until you get 3 coming out at once!
It seems that the optos on this machine are susceptible to dust buildup. I had a problem with my light-up targets randomly scoring that turned out to be dirty optos too...
I think I have everything working now so I am excited to get started playing and see if this is a game for me. Thanks for all the help!!!
I am back to having turbo opto errors but what I notice is the holes in the turbo propeller are not lining up with the optos. When the turbo blade spins it does not always stop where the opto on top and bottom line up with the hole in the turbo blade. (I hope this makes sense?) So is there an adjusment that can be done to make the holes on the turbo blade to line up with the opto.
Quoted from DavidC:ok what thickness for the washer? i have this trouble...
fixed, thanks
Nice job! I'm going to have to give this a go soon. I'm in the process of negotiating a swap of my Road Show for an Indy 500 and all three light up targets are broken in this way.
It's not that hard of a fix. Getting the targets back together with the springs is honestly the hardest part. I used a sharpie to black out the tab before I reinstalled in the game.
Quoted from accidental:Nice job! I'm going to have to give this a go soon. I'm in the process of negotiating a swap of my Road Show for an Indy 500 and all three light up targets are broken in this way.
Funny, that's how I got my Indy.
Quoted from midcoastsurf:Funny, that's how I got my Indy.
Ha! How did you find the swap? You're in a similar situation to me with only one pin (I've got two) but you've owned lots more in the past.
Quoted from t2:I am back to having turbo opto errors but what I notice is the holes in the turbo propeller are not lining up with the optos. When the turbo blade spins it does not always stop where the opto on top and bottom line up with the hole in the turbo blade. (I hope this makes sense?) So is there an adjusment that can be done to make the holes on the turbo blade to line up with the opto.
I am by no means a technical guy , but when i first got my Indy 500, i had turbo errors and replacing the motor on the turbo fixed it.
Ed Z
Quoted from t2:I am back to having turbo opto errors but what I notice is the holes in the turbo propeller are not lining up with the optos. When the turbo blade spins it does not always stop where the opto on top and bottom line up with the hole in the turbo blade. (I hope this makes sense?) So is there an adjusment that can be done to make the holes on the turbo blade to line up with the opto.
Anyone?
If your opto is not working, you can't expect the turbo blades to stop in any specific place. As long as the opto is under the openings in the turbo as you spin it, the sensor should be aligned correctly. Also, since it seemed to work for a while, its probably aligned correctly.
Not sure if this problem applies to the turbo optos but its very common for the solder joints on the opto sensors to need to be re-flowed. Are you comfortable enough with a soldering iron to try this?
Quoted from Schwaggs:If your opto is not working, you can't expect the turbo blades to stop in any specific place. As long as the opto is under the openings in the turbo as you spin it, the sensor should be aligned correctly. Also, since it seemed to work for a while, its probably aligned correctly.
Not sure if this problem applies to the turbo optos but its very common for the solder joints on the opto sensors to need to be re-flowed. Are you comfortable enough with a soldering iron to try this?
Opto is working. Sometimes the turbo blade hole lines up with the opto and sometimes it doesn't thus not locking 2 balls.
Quoted from t2:Opto is working. Sometimes the turbo blade hole lines up with the opto and sometimes it doesn't thus not locking 2 balls.
What exactly is happening to prevent the second ball from locking? Is the second lock arrow lit when you are trying to lock the second ball? If the second lock light is lit, what is happening when you get a ball into the VUK?
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I'm looking for 1or 2 Indy 500 pins within 5 hours of Indianapolis. If you have one forsale please send me a PM
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Quoted from Schwaggs:What exactly is happening to prevent the second ball from locking? Is the second lock arrow lit when you are trying to lock the second ball? If the second lock light is lit, what is happening when you get a ball into the VUK?
There are holes in the bottom of the turbo blade that the optos shine through. The turbo blade does not always stop in the right position for the optos to shine through the hole, therefore, the opto doesn't register. If you lock the 1st ball it will get shot out. If you then lock the 2nd ball it will get shot out but will start the 2 ball multi ball by kicking the 2nd ball out of the ball trough.
So, basically, after the turbo blade spins and comes to a rest the holes in the blade do not line up with the optos so then the opto is reading closed. Opto is working. I can manually move the turbo blade so the hole in the blade lines up with the opto then it will read open.
Quoted from accidental:Great trailer! Looks like a fun game
Thanks man! It is a super fun game. That is my acting debut as the lead FBI Agent and the hands soldering.
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