Not regretting letting that CP go at all are you.

Great collection you've got there. If I could only have one of your pins it would be MB. Love that game!

I feel sorry for you not enjoying that MM like you maybe thought you would. Hmmm, well, this is a hard decision to come by but, I will take it from you for a few months if it gets too old! It's just the kind of friend I am!

I love MM, but I agree that it's one real weakness is how easy it is to destroy the castle and how often this occurs. The castle is such a cool toy. I just wish they had implemented it in a more challenging way.

Sounds like he should be safe as long as he remains your avatar anyway.

I've never seen or played that pin, but I've heard good things. Hopefully somebody brings one to MGC next year.

I "like" MM but there are so many two flipper fan based play-fields out there and I can think of few I like as much and in a few cases more. AFM, MB, IM and LOTR are good examples. Its just personal choice I think. IJ is much more individual in terms of layout and superb interpretation of the theme and AFM is outstanding in terms of flow and speed. All good games really but MM isn't (never has been) top of my list.

Yeah, AFM has that "It" factor. Speed, flow, simplicity coupled with difficulty, great artwork and humor that doesn't really get annoying.

AFM is a great game & i'm gonna be looking at one in the next couple days....But MM is like a polished version of AFM...Both are great games & it seems what most people dont like about MM is the price....If it were a 4-5k pin I believe it would be in a lot more collections. Is it worth 8-10k?? I dont know....Do I want one??? Hell yes

.Do I want one??? Hell yes

I second that emotion!

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Love the speed of AFM, as I love faster type of games.

Speed + Flow + Great Theme = Awesome game.

Toss up for me as which is better between MM and AFM. Depends on my mood.

I realize that people like a lot of diversity in their collections, but for me I can't think of a fan layout that has disappointed me.

There's a subtle beauty to the balance of gameplay that i think is undeniable.

I agree completely. Fantastic fan layout, like some other fans better, but can't really fault anything on MM. Just like everything in pins, it's all preference.

Wesperron both are great pins it is a hard disision. I have both and will not be selling them. It I had to chose I would be keeping AFM.

I like them both, It's hard for me to say which I like better, but...

I think MM has exceptional hurry-up stacking rules, which I enjoy more than any other hurry-up / hurry-up stacking rules I've ever seen. I don't know if you've had a chance to fully explore the hurry-up stacking rules Wes, but they're really cool, and pretty much a game unto themselves. I'm sure you know once you've had a madness multiball, the next time you fully advance the catapult, joust, peasant, or damsel steps/lights, it'll light a hurry-up. Well, if you don't collect the hurry-up or drain before it times out, and you can fully advance any of the previous mentioned steps/lights again, it'll reset the original hurry-up value, and stack an additional value on top of it, again and again, until you time-out, drain, or succeed in cashing in the value by hitting the hurry-up.

You can get huge points by doing this in a really high stakes risk versus reward game. The highest I think I was ever able to collect by stacking hurry-ups was 22.5 million. I've heard of people getting more than 100 million by stacking hurry-ups, but I've never seen it. I've also accidentally had a rebound roll-up the castle drawbridge and collect the hurry-up before I wanted to on more than on occasion.

Also, to keep from getting bored by repeatedly pounding on the castle, I'll often concentrate on the catapult, joust, peasant, and damsel targets, until I get a multiball. Then in multiball, I'll concentrate on hitting jackpots while pounding the castle mercilessly with multiple balls, which seems to make it more fun and interesting for me. It's especially fun to pound the castle when multiball starts and the ball saver is active, as any SDTM drains get returned to you.

Sorry to prattle on so long. I have fun talking about these things, LOL.

I do the same.

I have owned both. I do miss MM but AFM is THE game.

AFM is my fav but on MM why not change the rules to Hard. At Papa they make the games extremely difficult which keeps you coming back because you know at home your scores are way higher.

AFM is a easier game than MM ! RTU is not hard to get but battle the kingdom is very hard to get everything lit !

I have owned both and like the money they are worth way more than the game ! I currently have a AFM and it will be gone before Xmas !

The games I find the most fun are the one not talked about !

Jim

Gotta go with jarjar here - MB is the actual king.

After playing an immaculate AFM at tatmans I fell in love with the game. For a flow game, I think this is the one. I like MM, but AFM has an "it factor" that sets it apart. Maybe it's the sci-fi theme and great humor.

My only two minor issues with AFM (and MM too) are the virtual ball lock - seems like there could have been space at the back to hold a few balls. And the ball launch button. But I get past both of those issues real quick

I like AFM better than MM as well. AFM is a top 5 game for me and MM barely cracks my top 15. A lot of this is probably the theme as I like Sci-Fi/aliens a lot more than Medieval (Monty Python) type theme. It also seems like AFM plays faster and has longer shots as well. I've finished BFTK and RTU multiple times, and while I find MM a bit more challenging to complete, I think AFM is just more fun to play. MM just gets too repetitive and I lose interest after a while. I'm not sure why this is because the shots are essentially the same as AFM. AFM is also repetitive but for some reason I never get bored playing it and it's amongst my favorite games.

I don't know if "polished" is quite the right word, but MM's playfield is certainly a lot more intricate. They're both great games, but I happen to prefer AFM's more basic layout. I'd also take a sci-fi theme over a medieval theme any day.

Also prefer AFM to MM and that is why I bought AFM Not ruled the universe yet but will never sell due to flow, fun, theme etc......just an all time classic. I like MM but not as much.

I just wish I had the opportunity to play some of these A-listers. For now, DW is king at my house.

That's a tough call. I really enjoy playing both. I may give a slight edge to AFM because I love speed and flow. I play MM like Rum-Z does and always seem to have a blast playing it as well. Wish I had both so I could compare them side by side like you Wes. You lucky dog!!!

You may be very interested in this RGP thread:

http://rgparchive-removed.com/rgpforum/showthread.php?t=368298

Sweetness! That will cover up some nasty wear spots on my DW!