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Imagine if you will a Twilight Zone playfield swap

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#1 2 years ago

The journey has begun for another swap that I’m excited to do. I had my own TZ years ago and it was restored by someone before so it needed nothing. Not my first wide body as having done a STTNG before but this one is certainly one of the mammoths.

It’s a Mirco TZ using the 3rd magnet version. Originally he was going to populate the magnet hole and work out getting the wiring done later. We may have a plug and play solution in the near future and hoping that if it comes to fruition, this will be the one that gets tested.

Will get new ramp, plastics and all common important parts replaced. He prefers incandescent bulbs so it will get them too.

Here’s the playfield ready to get started.

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#2 2 years ago

Here’s some of the end parts that need removed to get on the rotisserie.

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#3 2 years ago

On the rotisserie.

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#5 2 years ago

Likewise! It’s great place to learn from others. I learn something new almost every day.

#11 2 years ago

Thanks for responding Victor! Yes you were the one but we didn’t want to say anything unless you were ok with it. So this is awesome!

#13 2 years ago

The supervisor approved the new parts.

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#19 2 years ago

I have your old playfield mostly stripped lurch. Will be cool for you to see it redone.

Here’s top side posts for reference.

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#20 2 years ago

And some bottom side highlights.

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#21 2 years ago

And bottom side stripped with just wire managers showing their locations.

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#22 2 years ago

Out with the old!

Here’s the cool sample/early playfield run plugs used in the pops. They’re like the automotive Christmas trees/push pins and likely are as they have a slight bump on the top side.

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#23 2 years ago

In with the new! Third magnet version. There’s 4 T nuts 6-32 on the top.

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#24 2 years ago

21 T nuts 8-32 bottom
7 T nuts 6-32 bottom

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#25 2 years ago

We are on target. Sorry, that was bad. Using reinforced bracket at the small green target at back.

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#32 2 years ago

I swear that some of you guys are having people think I pay you lol. BTW, check is in the mail.

Seriously, thank you all for the kind words.

#33 2 years ago
Quoted from ralphs007:

The people that to this restoration work, always amaze me. Once I take something apart,it usually never works again.

If they only knew the amount of parts that I don’t know where they go!

#34 2 years ago

Well, I barely got started and there’s something pretty off. No big deal. Just use the handy kruzman clear kit and make a new hole. That’s really off or maybe being this is an early one, it is slightly different. But be aware if you’re doing this swap.

Showed the steps to make a new hole. Measure once and drill twice. I mean measure twice and drill twice. Never mind lol!

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#35 2 years ago

Next up was putting on one of the stainless steel ramp flaps. Much gooder.

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#36 2 years ago

Next problem: one of the lamp board dimples were way out. Again, maybe an early run issue. Easy fix.

Started populating the booty side with parts dry and out of tumbler.

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#37 2 years ago

I have been asked how I organize parts after tumbling. I don’t know if this is the best way, but it’s how I’ve been doing it for a while.

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#38 2 years ago

And some top side progress.

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#40 2 years ago

Reach out to mbaumle

Quoted from Starscream:

Is the old playfield spoken for/needed?
I’d be interested in it if it’s available

#41 2 years ago

Bottom side coming along. Cleaned the TIP 36c board. Was a little dirty.

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#42 2 years ago

Mech assemblies are in good shape. Part 1 of 2

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#43 2 years ago

Mechs part 2 or 2

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#44 2 years ago

Bottom side is getting populated.

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#45 2 years ago

Top side is moving along too. Most posts are in along with all ball guides.

The supervisor is always watching.

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#46 2 years ago

Just one ramp flap left; the new ramp that I haven’t started on yet. More gooder.

Gumball machine was dissembled and cleaned. It got the gimbals added in too.

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#49 2 years ago
Quoted from ralphs007:

Just wondering , by the looks of your work surface,are you a gunsmith too?

Not really a gunsmith, but I dabble in it. More for my wife then myself if you can believe that! She keeps one of her target papers on our fridge lol.

#51 2 years ago

Some parts flowing in and some progress.

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#53 2 years ago

Rings installed.

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#54 2 years ago

The new ramp is getting the new stainless ramp flap.

Teardown of old ramp.

Karolina completed the inspection.

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#57 2 years ago

Here she is taking cover under the playfield again. She seems to do this a lot.

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#58 2 years ago

3rd Magnet Opto install:

mbaumle came over today so we could get this done so I can keep moving forward. First off, it’s a PITA. If you don’t have a drill press, lots of drill bits (or get some good ones) and constantly lubing the bits don’t bother. He did most of the work and measurements. I just did what Karolina does and supervise like I had a clue.

It really isn’t bad. You need a new pair of full opto assemblies and we needed to make up for 3mm spacing to match the other optos. He has this all figured out and a wooden paint stick was just right. Using pop bumper cap screws, we found they we’re just the right length to attach to the playfield. They also weren’t too long that will poke into the magnet. Keep that in mind…

We used Ron kruzman clearcoat kit to prep the playfield holes as usual. It made quick work out of a new hole in the clear.

Drilling the SS ball guides was the issue. After lots of measuring to get here, this was and will be the time suck. Going slow and lubing just the tip using quick thrusts (TWSS), finally got this done.

All in, it maybe took us 3 hours or so. There were 2 of us but I didn’t add much to help.

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#59 2 years ago

Top side optos are done for what’s on the playfield right now.

Laid down the switch harness…

Karolina says hi to her buddies here.

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#60 2 years ago

Obligatory after working for the evening GM for Spyderturbo007

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#63 2 years ago

Not here. It gets consumed out of its container.

#66 2 years ago

If only beelzeboob would grace is his presence and humor…

#71 2 years ago

Yes! Boob makes house calls! Thank you Padawan.

#73 2 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

I was beginning to get concerned by the lack of Golden Monkey consumption during this build.
The game looks beautiful!

Lol I was hoping you’d chime in. I wanted you to not feel left out.

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#74 2 years ago

I don’t think I ever shared this before. I showed him when we were working on the drilling. When I bought my old Bad Cats, Rick who sold it to me gave me this beat up one too. I used an old TOTAN back panel and put a picture of her in the middle.

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#77 2 years ago

Most all of the micro switches have been replaced along with the lamp harness laid in.

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#78 2 years ago

Top side showing switches installed.

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#79 2 years ago

Bottom side filled with more wires from the optos and solenoids. So lots of soldering left.

I did get the rest of the playfield switches done. I used new tubing where used. New diodes as well.

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#80 2 years ago

Wrapped up the ramp. It also received two new switches.

Much more gooder!

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#81 2 years ago

Installed more playfield plastics. It’s starting to look like a TZ again!

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#84 2 years ago

The bubble gum plastic is triple stacked and you will need to remove and cut/solder off the old flash lamp holders and one 555 lamp holder. I chose to use nut/screw setup here for easier disassembly.

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#85 2 years ago

Another one where it is riveted on but screwed and nutted. TWSS

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#86 2 years ago

Started to solder in what I could for solenoids and wrapped up the pop bumper lighting. New diodes and tubing.

Mechs aren’t all on as we are waiting for some coil labels that should be here next week.

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#87 2 years ago

Top side plastics all complete less upper playfield.

Fitted the plastic ramp too. Fits great as always.

And idiot story: I had the box for the ramp but couldn’t find the decals. Checked everywhere and many times. When mbaumle was over I spotted the box. Opened it up and decals were there.

Prior to this when I couldn’t find them, he contacted Larry lrosent345 who mailed them right to me. I sent back his “replacement” decals that idiot me couldn’t find. Thank you Larry for your support for some of us slow types.

The ramp fits great too!

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#89 2 years ago

Added in the TIP 36C, resistor and diode for the extra magnet.

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#90 2 years ago

Starting on the teardown of the upper.

Here’s the underside.

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#91 2 years ago

Top side of upper and teardown.

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#92 2 years ago

Stripped down. You'll need 8 8-32 T nuts for the upper playfield.

Also, 5 micro switches and 2 pairs of optos.

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#94 2 years ago

Yes, they’re off. I just really noticed this when assembling. It’s par for the course anymore. It shouldn’t be, but is. Are you surprised lol?!! I know I’m not. He refuses to acknowledge any constructive criticism.

#95 2 years ago

….But they worked out. Still annoying that even the mini PF was off. The main playfield has had 7-8 minor issues but I’m not sure if it’s because this is an early run or what.

Mini is done minus the bottom cover and signs.

Finally done with switches!!!

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#97 2 years ago
Quoted from beelzeboob:

The amazing thing about this playfield swap (and I know you're too modest to say it) is that you did the entire thing with your feet.

I wouldn’t go that far. I used more than my feet.

#101 2 years ago

There may be some truths to all these statements.

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#103 2 years ago

Sorry I guess the cat is out of the bag. Sorry, that was bad!

#106 2 years ago

I have now crossed into the Boob world now but opened myself up for it.

#107 2 years ago
Quoted from Spyderturbo007:

Better not turn into that! Dave is my friend and I'll defend him ferociously!

Please enter the basement. I brought this one on myself lol! They know about the “neighbor” and the shenanigans.

#109 2 years ago

So she’s happy we are working on it so she’s rolling. “We” meaning her.

Signs are on with the brace on the Magna Save side. Upper is completed.

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#110 2 years ago

Huge thanks to DumbAss yet again! This board makes for an easy connection when doing the 3rd magnet modification.

This is what has already been done:
Playfield for 3rd magnet (or modified original).
Added optos for magnet along with the drilling of ball guides. Wires soldered and ran below PF.
Install new magnet.
Populate the under playfield solenoid board with an additional TIP 36C, diode and resistor.

What’s left:
Victor’s board piggybacks on the opto board under the playfield and allows the extra opto pairs to tie to it. You’ll need a 5 pin .156 connector (I only have IDC’s) and a plug for the center pin for the key. His board has the labeling which could not make life easier. Run them long enough to make the connection and plug in. I did not have any of the correct wire colors so I made sure to take pics of what color is soldered to what on both the TX and RX optos.

Now you just need to run some wire from the under playfield solenoid board to the 50v and SOL2. Run them long enough to reach the magnet. I happen to have the Molex so I pinned it so it’s removable. You could just cut the connector off that magnet and solder direct if you don’t care. I had the right color wires here, but they’re solid color with no tracer colors. That’s fine because it still is different.

That’s it! It’s ready to go.

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#111 2 years ago

Getting to the finish line with it. Wrapped up all but three mechs as the need to be done off the rotisserie. Flipper bats in, pops all done and adjusted.

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#112 2 years ago

And she’s loafing now that she got all the work done tonight.

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#114 2 years ago

GI and all inserts tested. Replaced one bad insert bulb holder that was flakey.

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#115 2 years ago

Wrapping things up and figured to run some tubing to protect against abrasion.

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#116 2 years ago

Was able to wrap up the last today. Time to get into the Zone.

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#117 2 years ago

Front side:

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#118 2 years ago

When you see it.

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#122 2 years ago

Max picked up the PF today. He’s aware I’m back in the Klink in just that thread.

#124 2 years ago

mbaumle has it up running with some tweaks. Most importantly, the third magnet set up is working with a huge thanks to DumbAss for the help. The effect is pretty basic in concept, but it awesome in person. And well worth it if you're doing a swap!

I'm hoping he has some video to share soon!

EDITED: He posted as I was typing!

#126 2 years ago
Quoted from mbaumle:

This game plays smoother and faster than James Bond dipped in olive oil slipping between satin bed sheets.

Calling beelzeboob !

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