IM VE: rules request

I believe the point of Ironman was to be simple and shallow, yet challenging. So challenging, that even great players have trouble reaching do or die mb. I'd like to see some Lyman polish and a ton of instant info added, but all in all, it is great as is.

It would be nice if we got an update, but I think we will just get some bug fixes. It would be cool if we got a new mode or something substantial.

IM is almost perfect as it is, it should be left alone!!

A better skill shot would be nice.

I think it should have some sort of saved progression towards do or die multiball. Has anyone claimed that they got there (with the glass on)?

I agree, should be easy code fix, something like Tron or ST skill shot, a roll over light is not a skill shot,

I did it with the translite glass on.

Ironman isn't designed for a deep rule set. It's way to drainy to have any deeper of rules then it already has.

Better skill shot would be great also a left flipper button hold on plunge to lower the rear up post. This way players have control of it up or down. Maybe even a higher score if the rollover is hit with the post down.

Exactly. The challenge with IM is simply keeping the ball in play! Anyone asking for deeper rules must have the outlanes closed and other tweaks to make it easier. I've played IM with highly national ranked players and they get beaten up as well. I've never heard anyone ask for deeper rules...

Combo counter to light extra ball. Ball saver as a mystery award.

Do you have the outlanes closed? No one gets "do or die" consistently on my example...

Making IM more like Spiderman would be a big mistake IMO. And if that is done, I'll be content to run the current code and never update the game.

The main thing I'd like that is lacking now is a real skill shot. In other words, disable the top post on the plunge.

IM and Spidey aren't similar. You might say IM and CSI are similar. Or IM and TRS are similar. All three have rules written by Lonnie Ropp. But Spidey is nothing like IM. To get to the wiz mode on Spidey, you need to chop wood for at least half an hour. On IM, you can get to both wiz modes on one ball. That's the beauty of the game.

Asking for deeper rules on IM is like asking for deeper rules on BSD. Sure, it could be done. But why would you? It's already an awesome game. Don't fark with a good thing. Stern is doing the absolute minimum to get these games out. Buyers shouldn't expect extras.

I've become a convert thanks to finding one in a movie theatre 6 weeks ago. Possibly a perfect location pin. As a pretty serious player, I love the game now and really wouldn't change much. It truly is a modern BSD, that's what I immediately came up with too. Short and simple and ball-busting. Love them both!! I got STTNG and WCS here for a more LOTR-style, wood-chopping campaign experience. Up to 101m, can't stop pressing Start!

Getting to do or die is pretty meaningless. It means you have started each mode but failed to beat each mode on one ball. Come back and say there is no challenge after you get to do or die multiball. The game code is definitely finished and not incomplete.

I don't think there will be any code update here. The game is simply a rerun. Not a new game with new development time.

I'd hardly call it meaningless since just starting all of the major objectives on one ball is no easy task on factory settings. People will say that you can get everything close and ready to go but even that takes some good ball control. Also just getting to do or die is pointless unless you cash it in.

Agreed. Bug fixes, earnable EB and hopefully better instant info is all I would request/hope for.

If you want a True Skill Shot + take the Game to a new level turn off the Up-Post altogether.
If you thought IM was already hard this change will make it seem like you were on easy street.

Pin - K

For higher scores (and less boredom), work on war machine and whiplash instead. Don't play monger unless you have to. Try to start war machine multiball with only one or two hits left to start whiplash multiball. Then bring in whiplash for the stack (and big points). I can see how monger over and over could get tedious. Change your strategy up and you'll enjoy the game more.

Just a thought...

... IMVE is set to ship "near the end of the month"... which is in 8 days.

This thread may need to transition to simply a "rules update request" thread, because it's apparent that major rules changes may be impossible within 8 days.

Ok fair enough. But you agree that getting to do it die doesn't indicate you've mastered the game, right?

I couldn't agree More !!!! IM isn't the Deepest but Try-n to get Done what Needs to B done is the Challenge ..
With the Vault Edition and It's New game Code -- I Expect We're All N 4 a Surprize ,, I Know I am !!

Sure getting to do or die isn't a super rare feat but it's how fast you can cash it in when the 35mil hurry up starts to count down. Then the nice reward of going into Jericho at 2x. (Assuming you've played your bogey)

I'm not sure i'd expect a totally overhauled rule set. Probably just a few minor tweaks.

yep, I had mine set like this when I owned it. But it would be nice to not have it in the settings on/off, but on a controlled button like TRON. Hold down the left flipper button on launch to lower the post. Also if a player makes the skill shot with the post down increase the value of the skill shot.

I also would love a super skill shot via the right ramp similar to the super skill shot on stern ST.

As others have said I do not think this game will get a full feature update. Just some bug fixes and other small additions, but we can keep posting suggestions! I am sure Stern reads these forums and will check them out.

New features even if they are light ones will for sure entice more people to buy the Vault Edition.

Did the old code have Flipper button idle SFXs? I don't remember, man ever game should have that!

The thing that feels slightly funny to me about games like IM is that they are themed on movies from the middle of a movie sequence. In terms of updates, I would love to see elements of the Iron Man 3 movie incorporated. SM and LOTR came at the ends of trilogies, so it wasn't a problem. IM is stuck at #2.

That said, I realize it will never happen

IM3 blew big time. I'm glad the pin came out before that trash.

It blows my mind when people try to tell me IM 3 was a good movie. no No NO!!!!

IM3 was terrible.... almost as bad as Spiderman 3. Glad it's not in there. You wanted this guy in the game?

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IM is fantastic as is..........but,

Would be great to have a few new ways of getting name on board -

Bogey champion
Combo champion
Whiplash champion

And easier to get an extra ball as it must be the hardest game on the planet to earn one!!!

I love all of these suggestions. Drone champ too.

SEA ASSAULT DRAIN (get it?)

You can say that again. It was all I could do to not let the crap that was IM3 ruin the first 2 movies for me. Ugh.

IM3 was a hot mess.....

I'd like to better understand bonus. You can have the ball of your life and still get a piddling bonus. Seems a little out of whack with the rest of scoring. That could be improved.

Put on some lightening flippers.

I agree that IM3 sucked. But for me it feels a little incomplete without it. I'll probably feel the same when the next Star Trek movie comes out.

I know what you mean about feeling a but incomplete. I don't think there are any call outs by Terrance Howard or Don Cheadle for War Machine. Although the game might be too cluttered with any more villains from the third movie on the play field.

Kind of like how the Xmen pins aren't movie based, it would have been better to just do an Iron Man pin based on the comics and not in the middle of the movies.

100% agree these would be fantastic! Stern you listening

Yeah, but that's a mixed bag. In my mind, RDJ is Iron Man and Paul Bettany is JARVIS. I want their voices in there.

I believe Paul Bettany voiced Jarvis but I get your point. It is a mixed bag.

Could have done one side of play field with different armors and allies against all the Iron Man foes like Mandarin, Titanium Man, Backlash, Fing Fang Foom, and Modok. Ah well. Still a great pin.

Oops, corrected. But aren't they the same actor anyway

I thought it was better than the 2nd one honestly, but I didn't like it all that much. I thought Ben Kingsley was hilarious in it though

And surely these kinds of things while adding a lot to the enjoyment of the game, are pretty routine to program?

IM is what I imagine bull riding is like...... Seven seconds of glory, followed by hours of pain.

More callouts would be nice, though.

I love IM and most likely I'm buying the remake but why not make it a premium version with colour changing leds, armor and modded toys and new code to run it all. I think Stern could easily sell 500 units at premium prices.

Maybe some surprises will be announced when pics get released..