(Topic ID: 98553)

I'm thinking about fixing up a Genie


By aveamike

4 years ago



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#1 4 years ago

hello,

i am not bad with fixing up Solid State games but am thinking about fixing up a non working Genie.
it's in a antique store in my area and i was thinking about fixing it up for free and playing it a bit, then giving it back.
the game is so big i wouldn't even know where to put it.

where does one start with EM's.

m.

#2 4 years ago

Start by rubbing the lamp and tell the game to fix itself! Fixing EM is an art of it's own. Good luck in your endeavour.

#3 4 years ago

Well, the quickest way to fix a Gottlieb System one is to replace the computer board. Ground everything. Then turn it on and see what needs to be fixed.
Never unplug the displays with game on.

#4 4 years ago

Genie is a solid state game (System 1), not an EM (although the playfield is mostly EM).

Not sure why this was moved to the Tech EM section; might be better served in the Tech: Early Solid State section?

#5 4 years ago

As poster above stated, genie is a solid state, not an EM. I am in the process of finishing fixing one up, it wasn't to tough. Just make sure that if the boards are original the battery and ground mods are completed. A simple search in Google or the forum should get you some pretty detailed instructions.

#6 4 years ago

put WPC legs on the back and replace the ball with a powerball. I recently reconditioned a $300 one before expo last year that i was planning to bring to the show but it was sold before it made it in.

System 1 games: do all of the ground mods you see in the wikis and then re-pin all of the card edge connectors. If your CPU board works you should be doing pretty good. if not then you will start sinking money in quickly

-c

#7 4 years ago

Omg! That beast is a solid state machine!

#8 4 years ago

If you buy a Pascal Janin all in one board you don't have to jack around with all those ground mods. The board is expensive but it really makes the game sing.

I'm finishing up a Pinball Pool. First System 1 game I've attempted. I've got it breathing pretty good now, using a donor board that I know has issues, but it's working now, which was more than it was doing when I got it. I've touched up the cab, repainted the glass frame, and got a NOS glass from Mayfair. Touched up and cleared the playfield, replaced all the drops, rebuilt the bumpers and flippers. It's going to be a nice game when it's done. I'm going to be getting the board for it it a few weeks.

You have to repin the connectors. If you don't you're wasting your time. If you're going to stay with the original setup, throw away the interconnect cables and buy new ones from Docent. No sense repinning those when you can buy new, and they're cheap.

I like Genie, despite the fact that it has those double flippers. Just never did like that flipper setup at all.

#9 4 years ago

http://arcadecontrols.com/files/Manuals/Black%20Hole%20-%20Haunted%20House%20Repair%20Guide.pdf

This has some good into on SS Gots, although more for sys80, but you'll want it nonetheless.

#10 4 years ago

To me, Clay Harrell's guide on System 1 games is the gold standard. Anything you need is in there.

#11 4 years ago

All great advice here. Can only reiterate/add:

1. Get the Pascal board! Even if your board works perfectly, the Pascal board makes it a whole new game. (ball save, new scoring, skills shots, attract mode, blinking!, more!!)

2. Do not be afraid of repinning; it is not hard, it's tedious.

3. Follow Tim Arnold's advice about using #6 screws up trough the playfield instead of the wood screws down into it. Maybe not original, but way easier to maintain into the future.

4. Make peace with PBR. Maybe reconsider Genie if you only use Paypay on your smartphone. Seriously, Steve could list you any system 1 part in his sleep, which can be very helpful.

5. Get an automotive pin pounding set (whatever's is officially called). Dis-assembling the flippers takes an absurd amount of pounding.

#12 4 years ago

PBR is actually near me.
I think I will take this on.

#13 4 years ago

I've always wondered if there were any EM Genies.. It's possible since that was around the time Gottlieb was migrating to solid state and I'd heard rumors. If that Genie is an EM it would be super rare.

I second everyone about the Pascal Janin board. It's awesome and worth every penny, plus you will undoubtedly have to do re-pinning of the old connectors and if you get an all-in-one board, it saves you a lot of time and trouble having to fix interconnect cables.

#14 4 years ago

I also highly recommend Pascal's board. Really like the new features and rules it adds. Like everyone else said, re-pinning is a must!.

#15 4 years ago

If you're interested, here's my Genie 'players restoration' thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/tonight-i-picked-up-a-sexy-but-dirty-genie

#16 4 years ago
Quoted from PinballHelp:

I've always wondered if there were any EM Genies.. It's possible since that was around the time Gottlieb was migrating to solid state and I'd heard rumors. If that Genie is an EM it would be super rare.
I second everyone about the Pascal Janin board. It's awesome and worth every penny, plus you will undoubtedly have to do re-pinning of the old connectors and if you get an all-in-one board, it saves you a lot of time and trouble having to fix interconnect cables.

Genie was SS only. Gottlieb themselves only made 16 System 1 games (there were some conversion games made but not by Gottlieb). The first eight System 1 games had EM counterparts with the last such game being Countdown, whose EM counterpart is Space Walk. Beginning with Pinball Pool, the rest of the games were all SS. Genie was the fourth all SS game. There are no examples of the prior three pure SS games being made as an EM, so I kind of doubt there is a Genie EM anywhere out there.

#17 4 years ago

i will take some photos of this genie next time i am at the antique store that has it.

#18 4 years ago

"Genie" is a cool game. What are they asking for it at the antique shop?

#19 4 years ago

one of the best system 1 art packages IMO

#20 4 years ago

the shop probably wants 800 or so and it doesn't boot up..... although it recently did boot up according to people in the store.

i will try to get it for under 400 now that i know what a pascal board goes for.

m.

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