I felt like dropping out too, but I am more than glad I did not. I am really happy with my game, now that I have it.

I feel bad for all the people still waiting.

Pretty accurate summary for the many still waiting.

Sorry it has come to this - I know you were really looking forward to the game.

Sorry you are so frustrated, I was there many many times in my wait and I almost backed out many times, But all I can say is Im glad I waited, Yes it took forever but looking back and having the game now the wait was worth it. I know I cant change your mind and you have to do whats best for you but you are very very close, you have waited this long whats a bit longer, I would call Jack and tell him how you are feeling and it might change your mind, just a thought. Ive got a bunch of friends still waiting for there WoZ as well. Either way I hope whatever you chose works out for you.

Joe(acejedi)

Why not just get a refund and buy one that you see posted FS.

You have been very patient for quite a while zippy.
It's a bummer you don't have your WOZLE pinball machine yet after all this waiting and trying to stay positive.

Didn't see that, don't blame you.

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Watch out if this thing goes much past April, for the LE's.

Man, sorry for the long arse wait Zip, I will be going through the same thing on the Hobbit. Perhaps get a used one now?

Shame Zippy, If you can just hang in there.
The game is well worth the wait.

The $HIT has apparently, hit the Phucking Fan!

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I have a Hobbit pre order I would trade.

Need a box of Omaha steaks?

So I agree the game is pretty good. I do not agree the game is worth a 3 year wait. If I was still in line, I'd be out for sure. There are plenty of great games that are available *right now*.

I am with you zippy. If it were not for my family, I would be out. I am still working them, much longer and LE 616 is on the market. I want the money for floats on one of my planes instead, but they are still in on WOZ. I really do not know of anything worth the wait. Does not matter how great it may be.

Kudos for waiting as long as you did.

Don't bother with selling your spot, get a refund, move on, and be happy simply playing pinball

that is what I did

I think it's a shame that you can't see your way clear to hang in there, your wait hasn't been any longer than most of us, mine was 2 years 8 months, got frustrating a few times, but I've got the best game I've ever owned to show for it and couldn't be happier.

I realize that pre-ordering and having your money hanging out there isn't for everyone, and God knows reading Pinside will do nothing to ease your anxiety, but you've come this far and you will get a great game.

You should be able to get about 5 or 6 or even 7 decent Sys11s for your WOZ $7500!

I know what I'd have. Sys11 for the win!!

rd.

You were a saint to stay on board that long. Now you can add "saintly" to the name calling list

I have got fed up with the endless Metallica code wait - but I have a physical game. Feel for you guys. No way would I ever pre-order as pinball is a way of avoiding stress, not creating it!

I can't blame you for jumping ship. After the latest developments, I'd find it hard to support this company even if I liked their game. Best of luck to you. I'm sure you'll find good ways to spend the money.

Just because some people are waiting around for an unreasonable amount of time doesn't mean that's a smart move or that others should just "hang in there". The fact is, you can buy a woz right now. If I wanted one and didn't have one, I'd be out right away and just buy one that's available. In fact, that's what I did several months ago.

Zippy,

I feel your pain.

I'm still waiting on my WOZ...June 2011 order.

I can't imagine a May 2012 game being ready to ship in the next few months.

What bothers me most with JJP is that they continue to tell people false delivery dates.

pre ordering, and waiting 3 years for a game. there must be a better way. i know theres production time but.....

Sure, jump ship. Make all the waiting and hand wringing to this point be for naught. Brilliant.

Let the doubters and naysayers drive you to bailing, like Jack's business plan is to phuck with people and make them wait as long as possible for no reason. Brilliant.

Maybe buy an earlier build, with their sometimes attendant problems, when you are 90% of the way to getting a fresh one with bugs already ironed out. Brilliant.

Consider Jack's simply reiterating the standard warranty transfer policy that every pinball/coin op anything manufacturer has had since ever to be an "announcement" about the warranty, ignoring all the times he has said that design flaw repairs will continue to be supported even after the warranty expires. Yup, brilliant.

I agree with the guy above, only with zero sarcasm. Brilliant indeed.

It's hard for me to believe the warranty isn't transferrable. Shocking.

Good luck with the sale but I would recommend sticking it out a while longer. You have waited this long what's another few weeks or even two months. You would end up getting a later built game with at least 2.0 code on it. The game is simply incredible and there's nothing else out there like it being made.

I was very frustrated with the wait also. I finally received mine about 2 weeks ago and look forward to coming home every day to play it. In retrospect, I'm kind of glad I got a later built WOZLE as I have had zero problems, aside from a bent leaf. Have 2.0 loaded and loving the pin. Searched through some old posts to get a collection of the rules and having fun trying to do all the stuff. The depth is unbelievable. I hope my METLE gets there soon!!

Just last night I was pondering getting out too but a few things kept me in. One is it's really a great looking game in person - any video clips just don't do it justice. The colors really jump. Also the software updates have been outstanding - both in quality and quantity. And just the fact I've been in it this long already - since I never make a mistake I refuse to admit one. If the machine holds up well when delivered I don't have too much trouble waiting some more. It does suck though.

GLWS. Please let us know how it goes. Since I have not waited the full 2 years and 8 months, but only 2 years and 1 month, I guess I can't complain. It is hard to believe, or even envisage, the pressure I felt that led me into the preorder debacle.

Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Yeah ... I'm on the side of "stick it out" Zippy. I know it's beyond frustrating .. but at this point what is a couple more months? With the 2.0 code release now, I really think this game is a must have for a pinhead.

Sell it or get your refund now. Spend your cash on an ACDC or ST and enjoy. You can get a WoZ anytime you want down the road... if you still want it.

I think that might be missing the point. It isn't about how great the game is. It's about the process.

It's like when you go into a new restaurant and there is a wait. The hostess tells you it's going to be 30 minutes. And it turns out to be 2 hours. If she had told you 2 hours 2 hours ago, you'd have walked out. Sure, you've heard the food is great, but now you are pissed, too tired and cranky to eat somewhere else, so you go home and have a PBJ. Or a System 11 or three in Zippy's case.

How many preorder people would have said "nope" if Jack came out and said "The games will be delivered in three years from the time you place your order" ?

On top of all of the delays and excuses and broken promises over the past years, this latest "all the LE's are going to be done in 90-days 'ish' " is quickly turning out to be another "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor"...or like the hostess in the restaurant. It's "tell them whatever it takes to get them off your back for a minute". People will put up with a lot if you are just honest with them. But if you're not, they won't.

And then, there is the whole new red LE announcement....

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You forgot the fact that while these people are waiting 3 years and more that the regulars are available to be purchased and picked up today. That's a big part of it. If I order first and get my game last, I'm pissed.

Seems crazy how Jersey Jack can get away with this kind of business, but he does, there's many people who have already paid for the next pin "The Hobbit"

Good luck on the sale, i'm sure this will sell since the wait time shouldn't be much longer, but i see your point on not wanting to wait any longer, I give you props for even waiting this long, i would have dropped out a long time ago and just waited until they were available. It does look like a fun game though, i might own one in the future

GLWS. I just cannot believe how JJP got out smelling like a rose and was home free, only to bog down like this again and not finish this run. Bad things, man. I can't believe that I am leery of them getting Hobbit out again, but I flat am. WOZ may be a collector's item when all is said and done.

GLWTS. 4 minute bump

I certainly can't fault you for wanting out. I received mine and knock on wood no problems and my family loves it. But I like you would have walked if not for my kid's who wanted this.

No, I didn't forget that; I've posted about that many times in the past. So, yeah, that's on the list, the Ruby LE is on the list, the warranty is on the list, the delay is on the list, the "communication" is on the list, and last but not least, I need another pin like I need a snow shovel here in Florida. That's my list.

I just posted mine FS. http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/done-waiting-fs-wozecle-7500#post-1498619

And lets add the fact that people are waiting for "limited edition" machines that are no longer limited With the announcement of JJP's plan to make 1500 75th anniversary LE's, you can even cash in your current LE slot and "upgrade" to the Ruby Red LE in the future!

WOZ Pinball. How ironic!

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