when a company lets the main designer/artist do what he wants, it usually is a great result!!
lets wait and see

Hey rip van winkle, welcome to the party it is January 2011 and you made it. Thanks for the timely advice.

I am buying one also and must admit that Keith is a big reason why. Unfortunately, I'm much more excited for Predator and Xmen both of which I'm also buying. Both those pins to me seem like they'll have much more flow. I'll get to play a WoZ this saturday and see it for myself.

Saturday? Do you know something that we do not?

I sort of expect that the announcement on Tuesday 6/5/12 will be about the test games, but have not heard anything definite yet.

Hahaha....nice one

Inquiring minds want to know.........

Yea, it's supposed to be at the NW Seattle pinball show this weekend. I'm going Saturday.

The IFPA world championship games list, updated 5/30, includes WOZ. Tourney starts 6/8. From what I can gather, that's pretty serious business and one should expect it to be there.

I asked Keith about the rules in the WOZ owners group and this was his response.

"The game will in fact be groundbreaking in many ways, I can guarantee
you that. But it other ways it will still feel the same. There's a
lot of room on that display, so putting it to good use is certainly a
priority. Hopefully it will help explain the game better than some of
what I did in the past.

My hope is that it doesn't take as long for people to really "get" the
game. Usually what happens with games I work on is that people have
an initial impression, good or bad (maybe even more often bad)... But
invariably, if you give them time, you start to "get" it and really
enjoy it. There's always a reason something is done a certain way;
even if you don't understand it at first, sometime shortly thereafter
you will.

There will be straightforward goals and not-so-straightforward goals.
Some of the biggest enjoyment I personally got out of games over the
years was discovering new things you could do or combine things in
certain ways, etc. This is something that is sorely lacking in
current games. I went to the Tron launch party, and feel like I
played 95% of the game that night after only 3 plays. That's
ridiculous.

The goal is great breadth (lots of stuff available for you to do at
once), good complexity (how you can combine things), great depth (many
goals to achieve after the top layer), and little work (not just shoot
the thing in the middle 70 times to start multiball). "

keith

I saw this a while back....that's hilarious that Keith is cracking on Stern and Tron for the lack of initial code and ruleset.....I doubt WOZ comes out half a** with code updates needed to complete the game....

Better late than never Atomic, the Lcd itself will give this pin the storage wars "wow factor"

Found this on IFPA.... Check out the first game on the New game list OH YA!!!

IFPA9 Game List
Here is a tentative game list for the IFPA9 World Pinball Championship. Please note that this list is subject to change, and that at maximum, only 16 games per group will be used. It is also possible that any of the games below could be used in a different group then what is stated below.
OLD

■Captain Fantastic
■Jumping Jack
■Flip Flop
■Loop to Loop
■Nip It
■Twin Win
■Buccaneer
■Fireball
■King Rock
■300
■Grand Prix
■Doodle Bug
■Spot-a-Card
■Eye of the Tiger
■Singalong
■Disco
■Dragon (Interflip)
■Lady Luck (Williams)
■Fast Draw
■Wizard
■Combat
■Wild Card
■Ice Revue
MID

■Whirlwind
■Cyclone
■Banzai Run
■Funhouse
■Quicksilver
■Supersonic
■Alien Poker
■Spectrum
■Black Hole
■Fathom
■Mystic
■Embryon
■Big Game
■Meteor
■Galaxy
■Superman
■Magic
■Stargazer
■Joker Poker
■Countdown
■Nine Ball
■Andromeda
■Split Second
■Seawitch
■Algar
■Frontier
■Medusa
■Escape from the Lost World
■Trident
■Cosmic Princess
■Ice Fever
■Ali
■Viking
■Laser Cue
■Cyclopes
■Six Million Dollar Man
■Harlem Globetrotters

NEW

■Wizard of Oz
■AC/DC Premium
■Tron LE
■Transformers LE
■Ironman
■Spider-Man
■Lord of the Rings
■Wheel of Fortune
■Monster Bash
■Whitewater
■Scared Stiff
■High Speed 2: Getaway
■Indiana Jones
■The Shadow
■Bram Stoker's Dracula
■Attack From Mars
■Revenge From Mars
■Medieval Madnes

Have a friend at the Seattle show so hope WOZ shows up and I can hear about it.

It will NOT be at the Seattle show. But they are still raffling one off there...

Super lame ! I hope this is not the truth. I have a bet that it will not be there ,that was made at the first of the year. I would rather lose the bet and see WOZ .

Jim

Jim,

unfortunately/fortunately it will be. A few are already on a truck from what I heard.

Any particular reason for the angst against the machine? Or is it just the ire of losing a bet?

When I first read the OP statement I had to do a double take on the date! Then I thought it might be a joke. I was and still am a little confused. So I will add my "Didn't we go over this in January of 2011?"

Nothing against the machine , it was a simple bet with a friend that was trying to entice me to go to the show with the reason that WOZ will be there and I said I doubt it and we made a wager . That is all . No big deal right .

Jim

At least when I get my WOZ in July/August it won't be an incomplete mess of code

?

That is going to be great ! Just think you will never have to bitch about anything ever again, and the machine will be perfect for years to come . Man you are one smart/lucky dude !

Jim

I heard just a couple days ago, that it won't make the show now. Read about it on the Seattle yahoo forums...

But stranger things have happened...so maybe it will be there...

Tom

I will know first hand , I really hope it is there so I can see the greatest pinball machine ever built ! It will be a sad day that I spend all my hard earned money to go to a great pinball show and the greatest pinball machine ever might be a no show .

Jim

Hahaha...that's funny Jim, no we'll leave the "bitching" and smart ass comments totally up to you! I'm a really smart guy, you are right But I'm sure it won't be the best pin ever made in history like AC/DC though

I'm crying for you right now Jim!...its really sad

All I had to do is look at your impressive collection and know you are one not to be messed with !

SMART SMART SMART !

Jim

If someone wants to give me 2k, I will buy a WOZ. Other than that, BBH 4 life!

WOZ is the main reason why Stern has "upped its game". Competition is good for all of us . . . for that reason alone WOZ should be supported. I personally did not order this game due to the theme; I ordered some glass from JJP though and I will go for his next game.

All hail Jim! You're the best Jim and so is AC/DC What's this thread about anyway...

Better not mess with me Jim

It's a shame you get so upset about a thread about people getting excited about buying a new machine that you could care less about....great attitude Jim!

And I've had nothing but nice and complimentary things to say about you and your work....you want to be a smart a** again with me, that's fine

jim will be a woz fan once he sees the build quality, fit and finish of the machine. there is no way he wouldn't appreciate the build quality alone...jim is a perfectionist

jim will be a jjp owner some day, he just doesn't know it yet.

why wouldn't jim buy a ferrari (jjp) for the same price of a ford (stern)

all in fun jim

Really......anyone else want to weigh in on who "i sh*t on".....

Grow up Jim, are you two years old? "Get a life poser"....Good one Jim!

I will know first hand too, haven't missed the show yet. My son and 2 friends are coming down as well. Thursday-Monday. I can't wait to win it haha

Please take your childish insults to each other , privately .

I have NO doubt that WOZ will be a fantastic pin, but I'm pretty driven by theme, and the ruby slipper flippers kinda skeeve me out.

Indeed. Please keep it civil, people. Personal attacks and profanity will not be tolerated.

Glad to see the "banker" on here...you must be BR's friend from NC

Have you ordered a WOZ?

My apologies on the Jim exchange for whatever my role in it was......

I hear you but it really weighs on me when a guy apologizes for bagging on others peoples pins then does it over and over ?

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/my-apologies-to-the-board-for-acting-like-a-d-bag-last-night

I am done with this thread and my only disappointment is that I may not see WOZ this weekend . What does that have to do with my AC/DC ?

Jim

anyone who is going to the show please take pics and or video and post here. thanks and enjoy.

Get over yourself Jim.......unbelievable........you want to keep posting the garbage I'll go back and dig up all of your BS! I can't stand you and you can't stand me...that's it...adios

Yes I have WOZ ordered. Should be interesting to see if they set a new standard regarding quality.

Uh, so Gary Stern had Keith Johnson on a leash? Not sure what you mean by this.

I wouldn't have liked it either originally Tiger but the Woz slot machines were so good with the LCD's I thought it would be cool....we'll see...hopefully #2 will be unlicensed before Hobbit...

Yes it will.......are you a Wake Forest fan being right there? I'm a huge Carolina fan!

Could also be the reason why prices are getting crazy, with old and new titles. Interesting how everything shot up during the course. Can't get much for under 6K anymore (nib). At this rate, people are going to be dropping 12-18k a year on new titles. Interesting to see how that turns out.

No thanks for me the theme and look is not one I want in the collection. Usually I can get past the theme and even look but I can't think of a DMD theme already made that I would like less than WOZ. That said, I bet it will be a very fun pin & I hope all that get it love it. I can't wait to see and maybe even buy a future JJP release though.

I gotta admit, I'm with iceman on this one. Hypocrisy runs rampant when hondajim spews here.

I am buying a WOZ once the standards are in stock.

It looks fantastic & I want to reward/support JJP's tenacity, innovation & creativity.

Thinking about that Xmen NIB too now that a Wolverine LE was mentioned, but that is a story for another thread & "a horse of a different color"

I'm with you man, the theme alone completely turned me off. I have no kids and I just can't see myself getting amped up to venture through oz. However, I must compliment JJP on their work, it seems like they have dedicated themselves to the project. I am anxious to hear reviews and see it in action, been a long time coming.