IM reminds me of a way more brutal MB/AFM in terms of playfield layout.

You look at it, you think "no problem" and start playing.. and get whomped real fast.

IM and CFTBL both hard, quick, addictive and when you get a good game it makes it all worth while and is a rush!

Got them both and IM is my favorite Stern and Creech one of my all time favorites.

In my opinion they go well together, different layouts, both fast and potential short games, both a challenge and rewarding.

Soon a Avengers Pro to join the CFTBL and IM

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IM is A very hard game but I think when most people describe "everything has to be done on 1 ball" it's a little misleading. You can get everything set up close to starting and drain but still be just a few well timed shots away from some serious stacking of the objectives. Once you learn how to set things up and what modes are available when you start others you'll find your self getting to do or die quite a bit more often.

Now of course do or die MB is almost impossible but when I saw it once it was kind of a let down and something I wish they would go back and change up a bit.

You can think of Iron Man as three one ball games, not one three ball game. Creech has way more eye candy but an entirely different feel. I get totally absorbed into the one ball on Iron Man. Creech is a great game but doesn't suck you in the way Iron man does.

If that's the kind of game you enjoy, you'll love IM. I've never played a pin where I've continually been one shot away from something huge, only to drain. Incredibly frustrating, but I always immediately push the start button again. Twice today I was one shot away from starting Do or Die and drained as I was desperately trying to get control of the ball. ARRRGGGHHHH!

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how long did it take you to move the machines next to one another so that your reply would fit this thread?

It is. What people are referring to is simply the Do Or Die "mode". If you start all five objectives at once, you get Do Or Die mode, where you have a countdown to make one shot on the playfield for HUGE points.

It still doesn't make it one ball though. You can set up everything for this and be just a few shots away the ball before, and your progress does not reset. In fact, that is often what I find myself trying to do - if you can get the stacks just right, you can get to this mode... but it's quite hard.

What I consider to be more of the actual wizard mode is Jericho. Jericho is a one ball mode which is started after you successfully light six Marks near the bottom of the playfield. You light one mark for each task - one for spelling Iron Man, one for rolling over all six lane roll overs, one for starting Bogey, etc. If you manage to do all six of these, Jericho is lit in the middle.

Personally, I consider Jericho the Wizard Mode even though I understand why a lot of people don't. It's relatively easy to get to as a Wizard mode on such a mean game, but the fact Do or Die is much tougher makes people consider it a Wizard mode instead.

If you think you're really good, there is a Do Or Die Multiball that becomes available once you have done an insane amount of stuff. Collecting Super Jackpots in the multiballs, collecting Drones I think three times and spelling Iron Man four times... these are no easy tasks, and absolutely no one that I know has been there with the glass on.

CFTBL is an awesome game, and if you like it and BSD, IM should be right up your alley. In my opinion, an IM set up correctly will make the CFTBL seem easy by comparison.

pure luck of the thread, they have been together for a year now - only have 2 in the house, with the other in the garage waiting to have work done.

IM FTW!

Crazy difficult to get to & a pretty lame wizard mode where its just ramp shot jackpots. Not very inspiring.

DOD multiball is kind of irrelevant as even the best players I know have never gotten it. Unless you are a tournament player it ain't gonna happen

I just felt it wasnt that rewarding for what it takes to get there. Sure if they did go back and rework it a little it would be nice but since its incredibly tough to get and probably most people have never seen it they probably wont address it in future updates.

I think the difficulty of the two games come from very different things. Creature is fast and difficult because the playfield is very tight and close to the flippers, and the fact that the staged multiball is only two balls can be very difficult to get through to the super jackpot on. You get punished for missed shots because you have little time to react since the objects the ball is ricocheting off of are so close. The ramps return very quickly also, so it's easy to miss the timing for an accurate shot and lose control. But if you don't miss a shot, you'll keep control of the ball. Even the bumpers have a very regular return to the flippers down the slide orbit shot.

IM has a much more open playfield, but I think the difficulty in that game comes primarily from the fact that everything you're shooting to start modes is inherently a dangerous shot to shoot and you will lose control from trying to progress. Monger stand up and magnet, war machine kickback, whiplash magnet, iron man targets, drone targets, nothing that you're shooting has a safe return to the flippers. There are safer ways to shoot some than others, but the game is designed for you to need to regain control after every shot you make.

If you were 100% accurate with your shooting on creature, you'd always have control and you could achieve a super jackpot and other higher-scoring objectives every game. 100% accuracy on IM will only get you so far, you'd also need to be skilled at regaining control to do well consistently on IM.

Congrats...you will have a love/hate relationship with it!

Yep! She's back on it Although I'm thinking the KISS scoop needs adjustment now

Yay, IM should be a blast!

Congrats, you will love it

I think there's a difference between getting Do or Die shot for 50M, and the Do or Die multiball, which I think is triggered when a certain set of repetitions of each mode are accomplished. I thought that's how it was described in a different thread; might be wrong though.

Do or Die is attainable..

I know of NO human that has ever proven that they have gotten Do or Die MB with the glass on..