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IJ Williams "You Cheat, Dr. Jones!" Club

By RDReynolds

5 years ago

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#4702 39 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

I just discovered PinWoofer. Do tell. I have Pinsound and it works great. Does PinWoofer work in conjunction with Pinsound? Also, does PinWoofer come with the midrange backbox speakers? Or is it just the Sub Woofer in the Cabinet?
Post a video?

Greetings. Recommend going with the dual amp super kit that includes the 8" dual-voice coil subwoofer driver and turnkey backbox solution for 5-1/4" backbox speakers. All hardware and connectors included. Our WPC setup is amazing.

https://pinwoofer.com/shop?olsPage=products%2Fpinwoofer-powered-super-kit -> select "Bally Williams WPC" under "PLATFORM AND DUAL AMP POWER HARNESS"

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#4704 39 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Awesome! Thanks for the info. pinwoofer Does it work with PinSound?

Yes, 100% compatible. In fact, that is the optimum combination for this title bar none. It's like having a 2.1 home theater in your pin. @paynemic and @underlord are two active PinSider's that can provide feedback specific to that combination. You'll never look back.

#4706 39 days ago
Quoted from Davi:

The Pinsound board plus Pinsound 2.1 speaker set is already shaking the house and sounds crystal clear. What's the benefit in this case?

In this case (the last few examples above), guys who already have an aftermarket sound board are going with PinWoofer rather than spending on the same speaker only upgrades. They are pursuing an outstanding pinball audio experience.

Many don't have a sound card upgrade, so the PinWoofer kit takes the stock DCS sound in a pin such as INDY to the next level (key point - any pin is compatible). It is a huge improvement to stock sound for those that don't want to top out at a $500, $750 or greater price point. You can get there with PinWoofer for a fraction.

Beyond that, the PinWoofer super kit has excellent speakers and two amplifiers, albeit for more than speakers alone, but we feel it is well worth the extra money. You'll get greater power output, no audible low voltage droop sensitivity (i.e. no voltage faults resulting in cut-out during high intensity hits) and immunity to aged driver board supplies. Plus you get end to end technical support and fully documented instructions with photographs.

There are as many combinations as opinions, and if guys are satisfied with their setup so am I. Just sharing my opinion.

Thanks for the question!

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#4748 32 days ago

The easy solution - with an interposer ring so the cone doesn't contact and wear against the cab:


Kit installs in less than an hour and works the first time. Everything you'll need including fasteners, connectors and tape for the playfield glass. Turnkey with 12V power cable. You'll be up and running fast and not the day spent in frustration.

Check up on us - search "PinWoofer" in the forums.

Happy trails

#4751 32 days ago
Quoted from Averell:

Mmmh, an easy update is the BG20 from Visaton in combination with PinSound Reorchestration from Endprodukt.
I use this subwoofer in all my pinball machines!
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Greet looking cabinet! However, is the cab floor and ring opening not 6-1/2" ? Does the surround make contact with the ring? Maybe it does not - can't see the cone geometry from the images. I assume it is an eight. Help me understand this solution better. thx

#4754 31 days ago

I think you guys would like our Pyle sub driver. It has superior construction (rubber surround, poly coated cone, dual voice coil, lower impedance / higher power rating) and can accommodate the PinWoofer dual-channel sub amp.

Our sub ring (WPC or universal) raises the driver off the deck and allows for free movement of the cone beyond the plane of the basket, unimpeded. We have amps, powered sub and backbox kits or go over the top with the 5-1/4" WPC super kit:


We design and cut our own cabinet and backbox rings. Pictured are the sub kit, WPC backbox adapters and some proto runs on the development router. (Get rid of that 3-1/2" speaker for good!) We have many more designs depending on the target (WPC/WPC95/Sega/DE/Stern/CGC, etc.). You guys should give PinWoofer a try. We have scores of kits in WPC and they really do take your pin to the next level.

If we don't already have it, we will make it! Just ask.



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#4757 31 days ago
Quoted from wolfemaaan:

Nice. Do you sell the sub rings separate?

We can sell rings separately for now, provided we don't compete with our own kitting ability. However, please note that you get a price break on the rings when amplifiers and speakers or power cables are part of the package. The rings are an enabler to our kits, so the price of the rings drops significantly once more pinball audio gear is in play. In fact, we have been adding rings to sub amp orders for guys who have an aftermarket cab speaker upgrade, but now require stand off when amplification is added.

Our amps and amplified kits add something special and give your pin amazing presence (more so than just speaker upgrades), and they are turnkey with tech support should you require it. Anyone can tackle our install easily and without risk to your expensive sound board. Happy to work up something custom for you.



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