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IJ Williams "You Cheat, Dr. Jones!" Club

By RDReynolds

10 years ago


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#1694 6 years ago
Quoted from Damien:

Wondering if you guys can chime in and tell me if this sounds like it's dialed in right:
- Mode saucer ejects ball and it hit the top of the slingshot, and then bounces over to the right flipper. Most of the videos I've watched shows it dropping to the left flipper first.
- When ball comes out of bumpers, and comes down the Super Jackpot lane, it often goes right down the middle unless I give it a nudge and save it.
- When ball is launched, it goes to the "I" in INDY about 90% of the time.
I've leveled everything nicely, so I'm just wondering if the above sounds like normal IJ activity.
Also, I know I've seen fixes for the Mode saucer rejecting balls using foam. I ended up lining the left guide and backplate with magnetic tape and it seems to have made a slight improvement.

Sounds like your playfield is not level, your cab might be, the glass might be, the backbox might be, but the playfield may not be. A good indication is everything you described. A pitch angle that is to steep will exhibit some of these same issues you are describing on IJ, or a combination of both. Broken side rails can attribute to this too as a twist can develop in the playfield. A playfield that has stood up for an extended time in the pin on the prop rod can twist and warp. Most of the side rails were made of soft wood like pine them wrapped in a vinyl that had an oak pattern on them. Widebody pins are the worst on these types of rails do to the excess weights.

I am in no way insulting your techniques or what you know, but I don't know how you did it, so I'll ask. How did you level your pin? If you did it any other way besides actually putting a level on the playfield, that may be your issue. I use a digital inclinometer on my playfields, the trick to using them is to ensure the placement is correct, when measuring an incline if the instrument is not exactly perpendicular/parallel the measurement will not be accurate.

#1698 6 years ago
Quoted from Damien:

I get OCD when it comes to the level. I use a standard bubble level, digital level, and small digital inclinometer. I find putting a straight edge along the top of the slingshots, and then placing the digital level on that works well for gauging the horizontal level. For vertical slant, I will put the digital level between the flippers resting on the centre of the apron, and then the centre of the level is usually around where factories install their bubble levels. I also take the inclinometer, and I put it in a few spots across the middle of the pf to see what reading I get. Somewhere between the slingshots, I like to be at 6.5 degrees.
With IJ, it is obviously more difficult because you have the mini pf to level as well, and it could be off while the main pf is perfect. I'm planning to remove the POA later this week when I have time, and get the the Mode backplate removed while I'm at it. But when I put it all back together, I'd be interested in hearing how I can adjust the level on that.
Cheers.

Sounds like you have a good idea on how to level a PF. I've had 3 IJs and only one has exhibited the symptoms yours has and it was due to a twisted PF. I could adjust and the PF would be level at the top but not at the bottom etc.

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