Does anyone know if a Pinnovaters pinsub kit will work in conjunction with a Pinsound board? Or does Pinsound eliminate using this?

Anyone who has a powered sub and wants to amp it up, I have a pinnovators sub kit that I’ll sell. Works for any WPC game. Way more thump out of the Polk than using the speaker wire method.

^^^Actual audio quality is the same. The board serves as a cleaner connection directly from the sound board. I had to turn the sub down some as it feels much more powerful. I can say this because I thought the speaker wire was good, but this method is even better if you like some extra bass.

Anyone running a color dmd and a Pinsound in their IJ?
I’m considering this and an external power supply upgrade. I believe Pinsound runs on 12v and I know the newer color dmd runs on 12v. If that’s true is there a need to run an external supply? I know color dmd used to use 5v and people were having reset problems etc...Appreciate anyone’s input that has this setup.

Thanks for the input. I’ll check out the sound. Did you go LCD or LED for Indy?

Thanks for the input Peter!
Yeah I should have mentioned that my IJ has LEDs already. No jackpot board. That helps a bit vs incandescent. I’m planning an LCD with Pinsound. The LED uses less power but I don’t think it’s that significant.

Thanks for the tips. I don’t have jackpot board. LED is so bright and for Indy everything is dimmer. I like dots xl so I was considering lcd. Just concerned with blowing something up using both mods together lcd and Pinsound.

Power help....thanks to Rensh , Mike M., Rdoyle and a few others for the assistance so far. Thank you!

So I think I know what to do but before I go and do anything I want to ask for confirmation.
I’m connecting external power supply to run lcd and Pinsound. I just want them off the pinballs power driver board.

This game is a reimport so no plug. It was suggested to use the AC power to the coin door dollar bill validator. Upon inspection my game does not have this. So here is my idea...
AC from wall comes into the power box, through the line filter, then out to the switch. From there it comes out the power box to a large molex connector that feeds the transformer. In order to tap the AC current I would splice the black, white wires between the power box and the molex connector that is feeding the transformer. I would create a splitter and off that line run AC power to the switching power supply and ground the power supply to metal power box. From there I have it covered in terms of what DC voltages go where.
See pics as a reference. One is the wires going in and out of power box, another inside the power box as described above , and the other is of me holding the wire I’m considering splicing.
Can anyone confirm for me if what I want to do will work and be the appropriate way to run AC to an external power supply? Thanks in advance for reading this and offering some advice. Much appreciated.

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Never thought of that. Rensh mentioned a plug earlier maybe that was it.
Ok so if I go that route where in the power box does it get wired to?

This essentially could then feed into and external power supply AC line. I would want the outlet to be hot only when switched on otherwise mods would always be on...or I’d have to unplug and plug in.
Thanks for offering that suggestion. Could be much cleaner/easier.

Thanks for the link! Its certainly an option. I'm not sure yet about this as the plug will always be hot since I don't unplug my machine.
My other idea was to de-pin the two A/C wires on the Molex connector and re-pin them with a double wire in each pin - original going into the transformer and the jumper set fed to the switching power supply. If done this way I'll be able to control everything with the cabinet switch, thus powering everything on at once.
Thank you for your feedback!

Who has the black and white AC line running off left side to the coin door for bill acceptor? Can someone let me know what that’s jumped off of? Mine is missing. Thanks.

Thanks all for the tips. I ended up re crimping new ends on the tabs that slide onto the switch. I twisted wire (one black and one white) together with the original AC. Then reconnected on the tabs after the switch going out to transformer. This way now when the machine powers on the external supply will also power on and the mods connected will do the same. Much easier than I though thanks for all the ideas. I found this way was the easiest way to grab AC power and connect a power supply, thus taking the strain off the machine. Thanks all.

Looks cool. Is the prop homemade or purchased from somewhere? What does it tie into to spin?

Hello,
If anyone is using the NEW Pinsound Plus board with their IJ, please contact me. I have a few questions and do not want to clog this thread with the details. Again, only the newer board with this game. Thank you.

There is something amiss with the Pinsound Plus and the better mix...did the game you were playing have the plus or the older Pinsound board? I’d like to know as I’m keeping track.

Thanks that’s exactly what I thought when I read the symptoms.

Agreed but what Delt was describing has to do with some sort of file compatability with the newer Plus boards..so far every person I have talked to has had a problem with the IJ mix and they own a plus board. Again the problems are what Delt described. I hope someday to discuss a resolution. ...

The “tick” is a major annoyance, along with callouts not being played in their entirety or cut off...apparently the original board doesn’t have these issues.
In order to allieviate that, one must use the mix on the site that exemplifies the symptoms that Delt was explaining above. No “tick” sounds but missing jackpot callouts etc.
Pick your poison. Someday hope to figure out what is wrong with the Plus board and the “complete” mix. I can’t live with the “tick” noise....

This confirms that my issues are happening to others. Thanks for confirming this.
On the mix you have you will notice the folder numbers are all different too...I tried messing with those and nothing worked. Delt, do you have the sounds for shooting the swordsman after the streets of Cairo mode? Check it out that one is missing too form that website mix.
Ollie’s mix works but ticks like crazy...he is aware of it and so is Nicholas at Pinsound. I have been anxiously awaiting the solution to this. I know they are busy there so I haven’t been emailing them. Everyday I hope to get on the message board and see a resolution....

During the game.

Thanks for confirming Delt. If anyone finds a solution please let me know. Delt is having same exact issues as I am. The problem is with the Pinsound Plus board. I hope they find a solution soon. Patiently waiting....

That’s the issue. Nobody using the old boards has a problem. I have contacted several people including Ollie at first. Nobody had a clue what was going in. Now that there are more and more cases with the Plus, maybe a solution will happen sooner than later.

The mix works well because there is no ticking. I was told it is missing a few callouts from the “better” one and it’s compressed vs. uncompressed. My ears can’t hear the difference anything is going to sound better. I haven’t been hounding Pinsound guys because that mix is working 95% and it’s betrer than nothing but I still would like to figure out why it’s happening and begin to use the mix I donated for..

I think you should contact them. The more people that do the better so they know it’s not just one incident. I was one of the first who had a Plus board and at that time it was dismissed as user error. I pleaded my case and through asking memebers about they type of board and mix they had, it was narrowed down to the Plus board. I don’t understand why it would be different but that’s the answer we are all waiting for.

Yes I too was one of the beta testers. It worked for me, no more ticking.
I don't have the swordsman gun shot sound....but have all the jackpots. I'm not worried about it anymore, sounds pretty damn clear and loud. I'm using the better version now.

I believe it was after you find Marion and either hit the start mode hole or pull the gun trigger. Once you find Marion, it shows Indy and the swordsman on the DMD. Getting the mode start hole is worth more (20 million) vs. pulling the trigger (2 million). I am fairly certain the original Legacy files had a gunshot.

I’m interested. Nice job. Waiting for more info...