It's a tuff shot but not as hard as that darn saucer
I moved my coils down to the orange ones and I have no problems making the right ramp and getting to the POA. I would double check the pitch and make sure you're right around 6.5 degrees.
Use a digital torpedo level to get a good read on your incline. Smartphone apps that tell incline seem too inconsistent to be accurate IMO.
Have you checked the flipper optos to make sure they're good and clean? I'm pretty sure a dirty or flakey opto can do funky things to your flipper power.
A good coat of wax on the ramps won't hurt either!

I'm a newbie owner for over a week and I can hit the ramp easily when it doesn't mean anything. As soon as the POA is available or its a jackpot I can't get a solid shot through the posts! Just curious what the ramp sound is from. I know it's supposed to be a plane's engine turning over but when I first heard it it sounded like a laser shot from an At At walker.

That's funny I play my friends ij and the same thing with the ramp. but never have a problem with my ij.

great theme, fun game, so much to it ,I actually have it set at 5 balls for guests, every other game at 3 balls

Does ij4 count its a indiana jones pinball

I love my Indy, but that mode shot is giving me headaches. I used to be able to at least
backhand the mode hole but since I installed a cliffy protector ring doing that has almost
become impossible also. The ball just will not stay in it's hole. I too find the right ramp hard
but fair. Btw, if anyone knows about a speaker panel plastic for sale, I'd be eternally grateful.
Been having no luck finding one myself

here karl

http://www.pinbits.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_29&products_id=502

also the light kit
http://www.pinbits.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=13_29&products_id=410

lost plastic/speaker panel

Many people don't install the Cliffy there due to bounce outs. You can also lower the saucer itself with washers (or just loosening the screws).

Hey.

Thanks for your replies. Unfortunately they are all sold out on that site Shoot_again (and I only
need the plastic)
Already have the light kit for it from pin gizmo and it is a fine addition. All the scratches on
the plastic in front of the dmd is driving me mad though. Thanks Jayhawkai. Will have
to try that out. I have no extensive wear round the mode hole so I believe that protector
has to go

Lowering the saucer as jayhawkai mentioned and lining the left hand side of the saucer entrance with gray foam tape is what worked for me. I'd say 90% of my saucer shots stay now.

I'm actually making an interactive tutorial as of this last week. Full explanation of the rules, strategies and history!

I also put a small piece of foam at the very top of the deflector, so a dead on shot is slightly dampened, and the ball tends to fall into the hole. The deflector also takes a beating and gets bent out of shape, so next time you take off the POA take the deflector out and bend it back into the right shape. I'm at about 90% success as well, unless it's a super fast dead on shot from the right flipper which tends to bounce out with a crazy spin.

First off, put the right coils back. You don't need anything but the stock coils. Have you tried adjusting the pitch of the flippers? Adjusting the flippers themselves can give you that little bit of extra power you need.

A clean game with fresh flippers should have no problem with that ramp. However, the shot needs to be clean.

The blue coils are the "right coils".
IJ came with them out of the factory.

HA! I thought they were orange. Carry on then.

The best way to hit that ramp is with the left flipper. Are you getting a smooth transition from the inlane to the flipper? I seem to hit this shot best with motion from the inlane. If you're getting too much bounce from inlane to flipper, it will make that action much more difficult.
If you are getting some bounce there you will need to adjust the inlane guard slightly to get a smooth transfer to the flipper. I can make a backhand shot from the right flipper but since I stepped down to the orange coils this has become slightly more difficult.

I can try and take a pic tonight.

I have no problems making the right ramp moving or trapped, so check that your left flipper assembly isn't binding. It should have about 1/8" up and down play with the playfield. For the saucer, I put foam on the deflector and dropped the scoop from underneath. I also changed my right coil to orange (still easily makes the left ramp and the left orbit all the way around when active). I very seldom get a bounce out, almost never. My biggest problem was solving the POA. Finally used some drop dead foam on the inside of the left tab, along with some felt tape on the sides of the top rollovers. Now it's dialed in, but it took a lot of time.

Also, I have the back legs all the way up and on rubber feet to maximize pitch.

IJ is a great game ,TOP 5 OF ALL TIME PERIOD. It will never leave my collection. I get a kickout from the mode hole about 1-7 shots .I tried a little foam on the deflector but it made it worse. I am listening to the solutions and will try them. Thanks

So I don't have an IJ. I have a virtual cab though with an IJ gun launcher on it, so this seems like a good spot to bring this up. After seeing this mod (http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/guns-n-roses-mods#post-583387) someone did to their GNR cab gun where they added real wood sides to the grip I wondered if it was possible with IJ. (I also thought masking off the gun and painting the mounting plate was a really nice move, check that out too.)

It doesn't look though like they modeled the IJ gun after a real one though, just someone's quick impression of one. So I'm not sure it's possible to find pre-made grips that will fit properly. Anyone have any thoughts on the gun model?

I'd love to be part of the club, but the price of this one is starting to get ridiculous. I played one for the second time at MGC (first time was at the PHoF), but since I really couldn't hear any of the music or call-outs (very loud there), I actually got bored with it after 3 or 4 plays. I bet it really rocks once you get into the modes and can actually hear the music, call-outs and movie quotes.

Mod start mods:

1.) Drop dead foam
2.) Extending the holes in the bracket and moving it back
3.) Lowering the red plastic the ball falls into
4.) Adjusting the bracket so it deflects the ball down appropriately.

Depending on the machine, a combination of 1-4 is required, but once it's dialed in, the shot provides a very satisfying clunk.

Ah....Indiana Jones. My very first pinball machine. (And still my favorite).

That game is responsible for the insanity that my basement has become...

Pete

Anyone see the one for sale in Ohio on CL?

1) install drop dead foam on all sides
2)lower the saucer via nuts on the bottom of playfield.
3) completely remove deflector bracket
4) i have a 11629 coil on the left flipper and a 11630 coil on the right flipper
5) I couldn't get my ball to land with the cliffy protector. My mode hole is worn a little bit.
6) feet in the back should be all the way up and all the way down in the front. Raising too high
will make the POA not function properly. If it moves too fast, the ball with no roll left or right correctly.

I have no issues with my machine. I have pictures if you want to see them.

Wait, you have 11630 red coil on the right flipper? Isn't that too weak to make the left ramp shot?
I went with the orange 15411.

Can you backhand the right ramp with that coil?
Just curious. Even more curious as to why I just quoted myself

No I dont belive that I can make that right ramp backhanded. Maybe I need to refer to the manual and upgrade! I can easily make the left ramp.

Looking at my manual it looks as though 11629 is the coil that is supposed to be used on both sides. It only says the left side is 11629 but I assume they are identical??

details weakest to strongest...

FL-11753 Yellow - Used with short flippers and close shots

FL-11722 Green - Used for close shots near drop targets

FL-11630 Red - The standard, most commonly used coil

FL-15411 Orange - Used for long playfield shots

FL-11629 Blue - Used for long shots and high ramps

My guess is the 11629 was swapped out to keep from breaking drop targets. Mine are heavily mylared now and brand new. They dont break with the 29 on the left though. hmmmm...

Yeah the blue coils were stock for both flippers. I was running into a problem where the ball would often fly off the wireform after hitting the left ramp. I'm sure that the newly waxed playfield and ramp were contributing factors. I read on a thread somewhere that some IJ owners would downgrade the flipper coils to the orange ones. This would reduce the ball velocity enough so it wouldn't fly off and I'm sure saves some wear and tear on the drops targets.
Either way in my opinion the blue coils are way too strong for my game. A more aggressive playfield slope might warrant the blue ones. But I'm at 6.5 degrees and the orange ones are plenty strong enough to get the job done. Your mileage may vary but I'm sticking with 15411's!

When you're through with the POA, is it supposed to recenter itself?
Tonight I had a game where I had it tipped all the way to the right when the ball exited it and it pretty much stayed to the right. Upon power off and on it reset to its normal position.
Thoughts?

make sure your POA is not loose anywhere. I worked on one last week where the back two screws on the bottom of the poa had worked themselves loose and the entire mechanism was not tight to the rotating pin that controls it. If you remove the glass and it does not move easily with your hand you can skip this. Sometimes this is an error that occurs if the machine does not figure out that the ball has left the POA or missed it altogether. Sometimes if the playfiel is not centered correctly left to right the pin that stops the ball and allows it to enter the POA will not rise back up to stop it. Make sure your pin in the back has free movement up and down.

wow craig u live in durham, my parents live in cary. If I visit them anytime soon Ill give you a shout and come check out your machines.

Yeah mine is nice and tight. The pin wouldn't come up to stop the ball just as you described because the playfield was tilted all the way to the right.
Power off and on and all was good. Hopefully it's not a common occurrence.

This happens to me rarely (every three hundred games maybe?) and is unnerving making me think something is wrong, but after a restart it always goes back to normal. I figured it was just a software quirk and stopped worrying about it.

I made the deflector mount holes slotted so you can adjust the protector forward and back. The *only* reason my protector would have any effect on the ball locking in the saucer is if the inner diameter of the protector is hanging into the saucer at all. Again, this is what the slotted screw holes are for. Line the protector up so a hint of wood is still showing inside the circle at the front of the saucer. Installed this way there should be no affect on the balls ability to stick. It then becomes the much more common deflector bent upwards issue. Bending the scoop deflector back down towards the saucer and spacing the kickout down helps tremendously, in my experience.

If you guys could change anything about the game, what would it be?

For me, I wish you could add time to some of the modes (mode start shot?)

I love trying to complete them because there are some rarely heard sound clips (try falling through a hole in the path of adventure during steal the stones.) I don't want to jack the timers way up, I wish there were some gameplay involved here.

This is my favorite pin of my collection and perhaps my favorite of any pin I've played. I think it has a fantastic mix of playfield toys, mechanics, shot variety. The art and sound package are second to none and the integration of the movies into game play is stellar.

My only modest negatives are the mode start is problematic (I've used foam and lowered plastic and it helps a lot)and the ball can get into a slow back and forth on the slings occasionally.

I've not played it much lately but I'm going to rack up a few games tonight.

This is a fantastic pin and I can't recommend it highly enough.

Dave

Hey I am an IJ owner now! Woo!