Whysnow is mad, CrazyLevi is snarky...
So, the usual then? Is the pinball sky falling or not?
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Quoted from EmLover1970:Only if you participants care more about IFPA *points* than the charity.
Not to put the cart before the horse, but if players aren't necessarily in it for the cash, then they HAVE to be in it for the points. I don't think anyone is playing just for the thrill of competition?
I am basically saying, I wouldn't want to be given the option to "play for charity!" or "play for points!".
This conversation has taken a turn for the fascinating! I went from thinking Whysnow was yelling at clouds to feeling like the guy has a point.
I am a little concerned with how IFPA seems to be acting like "well, we've done the research" (along with the snide, belittling of their userbase both here and on other, shittier pinball forums) when it's clear that they didn't really do ALL the research if Whysnow and many other TDs were left out of said "research".
I dunno. Weird. Should be interesting, seeing how this all unfolds.
Quoted from Frax:Convention center in Vegas is moving or getting renovated or something this year so the show had to temporarily move, which means we got the tournaments with it.
Being built in the spot of the much-loved, much-maligned Riviera. They had a Pinball Hall of Fame annex!! Drinking dirty martinis + playing Vegas in Vegas in a dingy casino? Pure bliss.
Quoted from Frax:We stayed at the Stratosphere and walked 50 miles in 5 days.
Oh lord, you walked the Strip??!? That's too much man. Next time, stay Downtown where everything is in a few block radius!
Quoted from Frax:I liked the hall of fame, did not enjoy Nationals, and even if I were to qualify, I would not go back unless I had days to spend on the strip again. F that.
Do check out Fremont Arcade Downtown and Flipperspiel (check their blog for times and location), they're worth the trip for sure. And if you're a video game person at all, if you visit the PHoF, look next door at what I think is called "Gamers Paradise". They have the most jaw dropping selection of older stuff, hardware and software, that is definitely worth a browse.
Quoted from ifpapinball:I'm not pretending to know if this is going to work. I honestly have NFI.
What I'm willing to do is conduct a 12 month science experiment to see what happens. Once we're halfway through the 2018 season I'll probably have a good idea the direction we will take things for 2019.
Seeing how it all unfolds is exactly the thing I'm interested in.
I honestly do commend you for taking a new approach to things. But I'm also a little concerned about how this is seeming to reward the best of the best and not many else, and I don't know if that's the direction a burgeoning population such as the pinball scene needs right now.
But I'm also not the one calling the shots - you are. Godspeed to you!
Quoted from Frax:Have you SEEN my tattoos? It's Yoshi, blue virus from Dr. Mario, a metroid, and a gamma metroid from Metroid 2.
I have no shame here.
Oh God you're a NINTENDO DORK, that's even worse!!!
(I'm a huge fan, and your tats sound awesome. I'm sure you have a Switch already?)
Quoted from CrazyLevi:I'm worried about what happens when Rolling Stone and The Washington Post get a hold of this story. We've got to keep it out of the press!
I'd assume selfie-leagues aren't going anywhere, as long as the selfie-takers pay their buck per "season" however long that is.
You stand to win a lot more in your prize pools with this IFPA change, is that correct?
I don't think passionately discussing something that's opposite of your opinIon needs to be phrased as "whining", does it?
Quoted from ezeltmann:You have been getting something enjoyable for free.
I don't have a lot of tournaments on my IFPA profile but the ones I do have were NOT free to get into.
Quoted from EmLover1970:And after all, it's a dollar.
Perhaps this is the statement that chaffs me the most. A dollar might be a pittance to you, whereas it's a struggle for me to put 100 pennies together. So now it becomes more of a "haves" vs. "have nots" type of thing, which I don't think will do much to grow the pinball userbase.
Quoted from Frax:If you were ignoring it, you wouldn't have mentioned it. You're like that person that's like "Well I'm not telling you what to do BUTTTTTTT...."
"Just sayin' brah" is very similar to that.
If I may (even if this is a dumpster fire as it is)?
I don't have a problem with paying $1 per IFPA tourney I participate in.
I have a problem with the way it was announced (on April Fools?)
I have a problem with the way it was communicated to certain factions (seems WI was caught completely unaware)
I have a problem with the amount of nepotism going on (my dad saved Pinball! My brother is a pinball pro! We know better than you do!!)
I have a problem with the happy-go-lucky way this was announced
I have a problem with the sycophants who just can't believe the IFPA can do no wrong
I have a problem with the IFPA believing they can do no wrong
And that's where my issues lie. Am an idiot for feeling this way? Probably.
Quoted from Whysnow:That would be like saying "you dont own game x, so why are you commenting"
seems like a silly thing to say
On a message board, no less. Great way to stifle conversation outside of the echo chamber!
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