Based on the current values, 1000 would be easy to sell at $7-8k. Gee, should I save my money for the next movie themed pin with chintzy artwork, plastics and wireforms from Stern or buy a timeless, original themed classic with beautiful artwork that Stern hasn't topped since it went out of production. Such a tough decision.

And to the guy comparing a $5,000,000 Hemi 'Cuda to cloned Hemi Cuda's that are worth a fraction of that. I believe there are 6 of those real Hemi 'Cuda convertibles in existence. Slightly different bro.

Anyone thinking that reproductions wont plummet the value of original machines is smoking crack.

Right now a worn and routed MM goes for about $6-$8000. People buying them know the parts and labor cost of restoring them means they are still above water if they go to sell. Originality means nothing when you have to fully restore the machine with repro parts.

Try asking $6-$8000 for a worn original machine when they are available NIB for around that price. Those machines will instantly drop in price to about $4000-5. Restored machines that people were asking $12,000+ for will drop big time. Original machines that are flawless or NIB are the only examples that will hold any of their current value and that's only to a handful of purists. 95% of the people who long for an MM will take a reproduction any day of the week.

Supply meeting demand will be awesome as so many more people will be able to enjoy it. 1000 unit production run would be a no-brainer. Who in the hell would buy an Avatar 2 or whatever current "blockbuster" trash license Stern in peddling over a NIB MM? Besides the fanboys.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Are you for real?

In your eyes, giving MORE pinball machines to MORE people would "ruin their place in the pinball community"? So in your brain, less machines, the better? The "value" of the machines needs to be protected eh? That's what the hobby is about to you? The monetary value of the machines? Screw giving the opportunity for more people to have a chance to own a machine they love, eh? Sorry guys, I don't want the value of my machine to drop. None for you!

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Amen to these last two posts. This hobby should be about as many people as possible being able to enjoy pinball, not "you're going to ruin your standing in the hobby" if you help more people to enjoy the games that they dream of owning. Greedy profit hounds do not benefit anyone.

Regarding the quality of wood...

I had Christopher Hutchin's at High-End Pins clearcoat my IJ playfield a few years back. Arguably the best in the business. Within 5 plays it had dimples throughout. Has NOTHING to do with the quality of the wood.

Just curious. Why do people give a crap about a pinball machines "rating"? I don't see how that is important in any way. Play a particular machine and you either like it or you don't. Why does group approval/rejection matter?

Amen.

Those pumping up Stern machines are going to get more of the same mediocity, year after year. IE cheaper versions of BW games from the "golden age". Zero innovation. Just cost cutting and price raising. Sad.

Says the guy with 33 pins including a MM.

Not everyone has wallets that deep. Giving those people a chance to buy what is arguably the greatest pin of all time at a "reasonable" price is nothing but great.

A remake is obviously "needed" as that demand is handily outstripping the supply. Hence the over 10k price. If Stern can sell out 500 "LE" editions of whatever pin and that ends up in the aftermarket for only a $1000 premium, a MM remake would blow that out of the water sales-wise.

Hey guys. He's right. There's a used one here for $9000. There's no reason to remake these. This fake craigslist ad proves it. There's obviously zero demand for this pin, that's why they go for $10,000+. Genius.

The posts on this forum are amazing sometimes.

Bingo.

Stern has had the market to itself for 15 years or whatever it is and they have made nothing that is more desirable than a MM. The selling price for MM's proves it as most Sterns have been produced in far lower numbers than MM.

This remake is coming. 100%. There's too much money to be made on it to ignore it.

Also, I miss White Castle damn it.

I just wanted to chime back in and say TOLD YA!