Game looks pretty awesome. Thanks for sharing.

If they can incorporate some really good call outs, this will be a hit. Not sure how I feel about the recycled Aerosmith rules; hopefully Lonnie takes that ruleset to the next level and really gives it more spice and breadth than AS.

Definitely on my radar, good job Borg/Lonnie/Stern!

I never cared for KISS game or theme so don’t know all that much about it, but yea you’re right - 3rd generation code lol. And some of that is taken from TF. Nothing too wrong with that I suppose except it poses a last ability issue in a collection if you’re already all too familiar with the previous generation rulesets. Hopefully this 3rd generation raises the bar some. Definitely not worth preordering til we find out. Wonder if they’ll have better incorporated smart missles?

From what I see in these videos, it’s definitely a wait and see what happens. I hear 0 call outs. Sound seems weak. RGB integration looks weak. Missing display clips. Choreography is off. Overall this thing looks very very beta. That said, I have this funny feeling this game is going to rock, but I’d definitely give it a few months to cook in the oven and see how it matures.

I'd love to see a JPOTC video of this same angle. Thanks for posting. We trust you're not bogarting the machine with these 30 min videos?

Agreed. That was my impression of these videos on GOTG. Looks good, but shoots just like every other stern I've owned - how long will that last in a small collection? My personal dilemma is im working in a $10k budget for pinball next year and with the limited space I have, JPOTC is at the top of the list. I had DI on the list but don't like the linear nature that the rules are moving toward since this past update. But, if I stretch that budget by $1k more, I can get 2 stern pros like GOTG + SW. Hard to beat that - even though owning a stern right now isn't as appealing for reasons said; cookie cutter all too familiar tables.

People say it's a good time to be in the hobby now, but with all these NIB titles to choose from with NIB prices at an all time high, it actually kinda sucks in a weird way. I thought when supply outweighed demand, prices were supposed to stabailize and/or fall, not continue to get higher each release lol. $9500 JPOTC is a tough pill to swallow. But, I do trust in Keefer to bring a better, more last ability ruleset to the table than Lonnie/Stern.

I'm overstimulated with all the options honestly LOL. I just wished I lived 2 hours closer to Ayce Gogi, then I wouldn't have too worry about buying pinball's or even budgeting for one. Jealous for people who live close to high quality pinball locations, no need to own these high dollar machines if so to be honest.

I think Groot + Rocket would be a fantastic narrative for Pinball:

Groot: ‘I am Groot!’
Rocket: ‘yea, I’m pretty sure he knows to shoot the balls in your mouth’
Groot: ‘we are groot’
Rocket: ‘multiball is ready, you don’t say?’
Groot: ‘I AM GROOT!’
Rocket: ‘I agree, now that is a jackpot!’

If it’s the TWD redneck guy it sure would!

So they have zero, none, zilch rights to use call outs from the movie? Ouch! This game just took a big blow to the nuts IMO. (If true).

...hey, just another reason to wait to buy you sociopathic crazy pinheads

Haha I was just messing. If anyone is running my TWD sound mix, they know I have it 70/30 redneck guy to show call out ratio.

Oh man can you imagine, sparky screeching “I am groooot hahahahaha” that would suck lol.

They should just get James Hetfield and let him take this bull by the horns, "Jack fuckin' pot Groot! "

The scoring isn't linear by any means. And it's not a ladder climbing fest of modes, but the game is centered around the disasters. And now after 5 disasters you're stuck playing a multiball that halts progression and isn't (to my knowledge) based on how you've progressed prior to reaching the multiball. It just seems like an odd spot to add the mini wizard mode when disaster modes already had a mini wizard mode. So yea, mode and wizard progression is linear. The fact you can choose the disasters is the only thing helping the linear nature of the ladder.

But don't get me wrong, I love dialed in! And it's still on the radar, it's just been knocked down a couple steps cause of those things. But I admit I have not played the new code or understand it which is why I posed the question in the DI thread. Hopefully I get some time in on it again. Back to guardians....

Bleh. I hate being put in the category of opinions are fact so let’s nip that nonsense right in the bud now. Posting on my phone but hopefully this makes sense.

All I said was the linear nature of the rules is why it’s been turning me off. Not trying to play it as fact, it’s just my perception of the game and how the modes flow from what I have played of it. My GC on the game is 13 mil at ayce gogi fwiw.

I haven’t played the new wizard mode but I have plenty of time on the game prior to that one wizard mode being added. My statement on the linear nature ruleset still stands as those rules are still the same, what I meant about reserving final judgement is whether or not that new wizard mode is integrated on how you do prior to qualifying it.

And why it turned me off is I was hoping the devs would build around the disasters like WOZ rather than add on to it.

If you want to know more please join my discussion in the DI owners thread. Sorry for the interruption, back to guardians...