I just played a Stern pinball machine for the first time today (the new Indiana Jones), and it sucked hard. The flippers are weak the machine looks and feels cheap. There are barely any toys or gadgets on the playfield. I love the Indian Jones from Williams, and now Stern just ruined the Indiana Jones name for pinball. I just can't belieave Wiliams had to quit and leave Stern in command of the pin world. The only machines that I have seen that look any good from Stern are Lord of the Rings and The Simpsons. What I don't get is who would buy these cheaper made machines for $4,000-$5,000 when you can just buy a classic well made machine for alot less. It's just my opinion and thoughts on the subject, so don't get to mad if you don't agree with me. Leave your thoughts on whether you like Stern or not.