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Quoted from gearheaddropping:Does it have more parts than a Ford Taurus?
Quoted from pinballphil:a lot less wires. Did I say a lot less wires, I mean like hardly any!
Cost of production savings abound! 
If they could sell these for $3k back in the day to make a profit, who wants to guess what the per-unit build cost is on one MMR?
Quoted from luvthatapex2:I hope they make a million on the remakes
, they already have made a million just off of the pre-order payment. But let's assume the profit margin per-pin is $4,000 dollars, they made $4,000,000 profit just off the 'LE' run...
But hey, "let's charge the same price for the newly announced 'standards' (still at a $4,000 per-unit profit)," sell two-thousand more games. New profit on remake $12,000,000.
I'm all for them making millions, but this recent BS of $8k being reasonable for any pinball machine is just getting hilarious with everyone rushing to get into the dick measuring contest.
Not having to employ people to fully code/program from ground up, and tweak PF layout multiple times has to be saving them a ton of moola compared to Stern and JJP. Skit-B has to be loosing their shirt selling at $4750...
I have a hard time believing remake costs are anywhere near current market prices.
Quoted from chessiv:Regardless of the cost to make that's a good deal.
It's still a $4k toy. Sure you'll get to tell all your friends and family you finally have a MM, but seriously, how is eight thousand dollars a good deal for a pinball machine?!?
Quoted from eggbert52:It's so tiring to hear opinions on the game being priced too high when they sold 1,000 in one day.
I'm convinced Steve Ritchie could fart in a bottle and sell 1,000 units to the pin community for no less than $5-per at this point Strike while the iron is hot.
Quoted from 6S3NC3:ust a bit sick of seeing people wanting more and more trying to justify “less wires is a lower cost so I want better speakers” attitude.
They could at least give you the courtesy of a reach around while they're ramming you up the rear with the sale price
Quoted from rosh:It is all about supply and demand as far as pricing
MMR's bark bark is going nuts with all these new people coming into the hobby!
Quoted from smokedog:Stern is still making great games for under $5K NiB.
"These are not the pins you're looking for; new pinball machines are all worth $8k+ and the manufacturers are eeking by with little profit...MM was worth $12k"
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Quoted from IdahoRealtor:Most of this speculation about their profit margins is garbage. No way it is $3-4k per game.
Star Trek Pro, selling at ~$4800 (for a profit I would guess, built by a whole team from 'scratch' (used lightly)):
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MMR, $8k (already layed out, basically bolt a new one together and sell):
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Tell me how these are really that different, and I'm talking $3k-$4k in material cost to build?
Quoted from Nibbles:Star Trek Pro, selling at ~$4800 (for a profit I would guess, built by a whole team from 'scratch' (used lightly)):
MMR, $8k (already layed out, basically bolt a new one together and sell):
Tell me how these are really that different, and I'm talking $3k-$4k in material cost to build?
Quoted from jalpert:I'd rather pay $8K and expect and get absolute primo quality across the board than pay $6.5K and have them cut some corners.
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