Star Trek (Pro)
Stern, 2013Edit: I realize I'm a d-bag for being critical of a new game so early on. Sorry to all that can't handle my first take on the game.
it played alot like a clunky spiderman. any other opinions on the matter?
Hey, it sounds like a troll thread (actually just my honest opinion) but at least it's not another MMR thread. 
Quoted from davewtf:it played alot like a clunky spiderman. any other opinions on the matter?
Hey, it's a troll thread (actually just my honest opinion) but at least it's not another MMR thread.
PLAY BETTER! 
Thought it played fast, smooth. The design is similar to Spider-Man, no doubt, but I didn't feel like it played the same. That warp ramp is like lightning at how fast the ball comes back at you. Made the Venom upper flipper shot look like the ramp on Cyclone.
Quoted from davewtf:maybe i just couldn't hit the shots. left ramp was difficult for me.
Did you backhand the ramp? Felt like it was an easy backhand, similar to ACDC left ramp.
Quoted from Wamprat:I have played it and didn't like it one bit.
Do you like any games?
Quoted from Wamprat:I have played it and didn't like it one bit.
What didn't you like about it?
Quoted from davewtf:no, the game backhanded me. i do need to play better, i think. when you get your's?
Come over when I get the LE. Then decide.
Quoted from Wamprat:It felt like too many games I have played before.
My group of 4 put around 30 plays each and all said the same thing. Its just ok imho
Quoted from DougPiranha:My group of 4 put around 30 plays each and all said the same thing. Its just ok imho
Oh you were the guys everyone was talking about hogging the games. 
I played it for a few games and actually it was better than I imagined and I ordered the LE. I think it is very fun. I also put high score #4 up on my first game ever which was luck but, fun.
Game plays great. It's the code that worries me. If Stern is doing 6 games in 18 months then code should worry everyone. That release schedule if true is absolutely crazy.
Quoted from hank527:Game plays great. It's the code that worries me. If Stern is doing 6 games in 18 months then code should worry everyone. That release schedule if true is absolutely crazy.
aGREED
Last finished game from Stern was???
Quoted from PW79:aGREED
Last finished game from Stern was???
Define finished?
Avengers is finished
Xmen is finished
Tron is finished
TF is finished
ACDC is finished
Polished...now that's another story.
X-men?
Missing Dead Pool that's in the adjustments is finished?
Quoted from Eskaybee:Define finished?
Avengers is finished
Xmen is finished
Tron is finished
TF is finished
ACDC is finished
Polished...now that's another story.
Quoted from Eskaybee:Define finished?
Avengers is finished
Xmen is finished
Tron is finished
TF is finished
ACDC is finished
Polished...now that's another story.
ACDC...
What do the non working flashers do?
How many things can you shoot the cannon at?
The bell, I'm sure it's supposed to do more right?
The lower PF cannot be fully implemented right?
Stern wants polished money, I want polished code.
MET & ACDC are my next additions if coded 100%.
If code is not finished I guess I will get a RBION & SM
Either way I get a new game or two for the same total cost
Edit: SKB don't wig out on me 
I'm just pinball talk'n with ya
Wife daughter and I played it at Expo and at Pinballlife open house (Thanks Terry!). Anyway we loved it, very fast, love the ramp shots. We all where surprised at how big the Vengence ship was..which even after hearing how big it is...it looks bigger in real life. Hard to see the entire effect of the RGB LED's in such a well lit room but still they where good not overpowering. Playfield was so so not as horrible as I first thought on the pictures but not as nice as Metallica 
I liked it better than Spiderman myself, but Spiderman is a bit to slow for me with all the ball locks.
I played it for the first time this weekend at expo. I was very impressed. yeah, it needs some more code. but I think its got a great start. once code is finished, it should be an amazing game. its got incredible flow, just the way I like it.
Quoted from PW79:SKB don't wig out on me I'm just pinball talk'n with ya
Don't do it bro....don't do it....don't make me wig out!!
Now you've done it...
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Btw; I'd take ACDC and its code over any game in the world...scratch that; over any game in the universe!
I played it this weekend too and fist impressions agree with davewth. Did I just type that? 
The playfield artwork was a bit of a letdown. The dot work - not a fan. Did anyone compare the dot work in new BOP versus ST? ST looked like the amateur version (no offense Dutch). I'm sure I'm in the minority but would have rather seen movie scenes. Sounds were very cool and did have some ramp flow. The warp ramp is fast coming back at you. But the center shot, while tight, was odd. You hit the drop target, shoot back up middle and drop target comes back up to capture ball? Why didn't the magnet hold it or something.
Code is early but I was left after 5 games like I've played it before. Code still needs work and light show in LE may take it up a notch. Happy to have another pin with great theme from Stern/Ritchie but wasn't blown away - yet.
I was talking to Steve Ritchie and he said did you notice we are running new code on Star Trek at EXPO?
Since this was the first time playing it, I didn't notice anything different, but apparently it was version 1.25 if I recall.
I really enjoyed the game and played it many times over the past 4 days. Great game.
One of the best flowing games ever. No question. I'm not buying one and agree the layout is similar to other games but it is not clunky in my view at all. Smooth game.
Quoted from PW79:ACDC...
What do the non working flashers do?
How many things can you shoot the cannon at?
The bell, I'm sure it's supposed to do more right?
The lower PF cannot be fully implemented right?
Stern wants polished money, I want polished code.
these are the 5 things needed to just finish. polish would be well after these 5
Bill
I guess the point of the upper flipper ramp shot is speed, but it would be good to have the option of adding the metal piece that brings the ball in tight on the flipper, like on SM's upper flipper shot. Hope people know what I'm talking about?
Quoted from TigerLaw:but it is not clunky in my view at all. Smooth game.
Well over half the times you make the warp ramp it ounces back to the shorter lane. Thats clunky.
Quoted from badbilly27:But the center shot, while tight, was odd. You hit the drop target, shoot back up middle and drop target comes back up to capture ball? Why didn't the magnet hold it or something.
I would like to see this improved as well, it would be way better if the magnet held it rather than just sitting on either side of the drop target until it's released.
Quoted from DCfoodfreak:Well over half the times you make the warp ramp it ounces back to the shorter lane. Thats clunky.
Hrm, that's not my experience at ALL. Warp Ramp was smooth as butter. Could be a setup thing.
-Wes
Plays absolutely nothing like SM IMO. Not sure where 'clunky' comment comes from as the design is straight forward fan layout with fairly wide ramp entrances both of which can be backhanded. But as always to each their own.
Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:Plays absolutely nothing like SM IMO.
As an owner of SM, and a hopeful eventual owner of ST (maintaining my commitment of not buying NIB until code is done), I agree with this. I thought for sure they would play the same, but the upper flipper dynamic is completely different, and the fact that there is no ball lock like doc ock on the Pro makes it feel VERY dissimilar to SM. I'm keeping my eyes on ST, maybe will pick one up eventually.
-Wes
Quoted from copperpot:Hwawonyu said:
Well over half the times you make the warp ramp it ounces back to the shorter lane. Thats clunky.Hrm, that's not my experience at ALL. Warp Ramp was smooth as butter. Could be a setup thing.
-Wes
Any ideas? I will look at it. Its perfectly level. Probably the thing that gets me most teed off. Well that and the ball always sticking below the pop bumpers on the ledge.
Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:Plays absolutely nothing like SM IMO. Not sure where 'clunky' comment comes from as the design is straight forward fan layout with fairly wide ramp entrances both of which can be backhanded. But as always to each their own.
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I played 2 games on it and currently have NO desire to play it again. Hopefully the code gets better but nothing can helps those dots or how clunky it felt to me.
I need more time on it in a better setting so I can actually experience the game but at this stage I like pretty much every other recent Stern better.
Quoted from Whysnow:I played 2 games on it and currently have NO desire to play it again. Hopefully the code gets better but nothing can helps those dots or how clunky it felt to me.
I need more time on it in a better setting so I can actually experience the game but at this stage I like pretty much every other recent Stern better.
Just watched PAPATV. It didn't look clunky at all.
There is one at a local pizza place. I thought it was pretty awesome!
Definitely the newest machine I have ever played so that might have something to do with it.
Not too many toys, the playfield didn't have too many crappy photoshopped looking things on it. I enjoyed the lighting. It felt pretty solid though it was new. I thought it had a pretty good flow, but I have yet to have a game I was pleased with. Not too many cheap drains.
I will be back for more and am pleased to support someone who went out of their way to put a great new game out on location.
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