I bought a Stern playboy and bride of pinbot from a dealer that sells pinballs, arcades etc. I have been wanting to check out the place for awhile and finally had a chance to. I live in Connecticut and it was one of the only places that sells pins. The place is Automated Services in Milford Connecticut. I checked out the show room, plenty of new, older pins. I decided on a 2002 stern playboy and bide of pinbot. Both had leds but the playboy could use a cleaning, one of the plastics was cracked and there was a decal missing from one of drop targets. The bop had some lights out and could use a deep clean and or shop. I speak to the owner and we make a deal to have the two delivered. I point out the issues with machines, namely the missing decal on the pb and he says he will take care of it. I had this feeling that they were going to get delivered just the way they were. Come delivery day and yup, no decal on the pb, lights still put on the bop and both are still dirty. Basically he told his guys pack them up and deliver them. Needless to say I'm extremely disappointed. I never bought a pin from a dealer but I would at least think the games would be cleaned and all the lights replaced. Imo a game should be fully shopped before you sell it? I understand these aren't nib but I paid a few thousand for both, actually $4300 for the bop and $5 for the pb. The next day I go and pick up a 1978 playboy from a guy in his house. Game is near flawless. I paid 3k he wanted 3500. So long story long, I'll stick to private collectors to buy my games from and avoid the disappointment.