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I hate video pinball. Poll added


By SilverBallz

11 months ago



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    “I hate video pinball.”

    • I hate video pinball. 36 votes
      51%
    • I hate video pinball and toppers. 35 votes
      49%

    (Multiple choice - 71 votes by 68 Pinsiders)

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    #1 11 months ago

    Do you like video pinball? Vote now.

    #2 11 months ago

    I did when brand new into the hobby....I bought the T2 pack only cuz I thought it was cool that I had the real machine....I won't be buying packs before they are gone........Joey

    #3 11 months ago

    i should have put aftermarket toppers because i love the WH2O and TAF topper. And WW and many standard toppers that make sense and work. SC, HS, etc.

    #4 11 months ago

    I agree... .........Joey

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    #5 11 months ago

    Fear leads to anger.
    Anger leads to hate.
    Hate leads to suffering.

    You’re almost there!

    #6 11 months ago
    Quoted from cougtv:

    Fear leads to anger.
    Anger leads to hate.
    Hate leads to suffering.

    Suffering leads to bitching.
    Full circle.

    #7 11 months ago

    Visual pinball cabinets do not do well on routes for operators either. Purists hate them, and tournament players don't believe they are real games.

    Basically, it's a lose-lose for everyone.

    #8 11 months ago

    I like video pins. Allows the family and friends to play pins we'll never get the chance to, whenever we want, on tap. Not as good as the real thing, but a good substitute.

    #9 11 months ago

    Video pinball isn't pinball. I don't hate it. It just is what it is.

    #10 11 months ago

    Video pinball...at least on my iPad, got me and whole bunch of other people interested in collecting the real deal.

    It will certainly make you think you’re better then you are.

    #11 11 months ago
    Quoted from Toasterdog:

    Video pinball...at least on my iPad, got me and whole bunch of other people interested in collecting the real deal.

    Yea... We know...

    #12 11 months ago
    Quoted from tamoore:

    Yea... We know...

    I guess that’s a benefit of it. And you can try to figure out if the music is going to be annoying and drive you nuts after you spend thounds on a game.

    #13 11 months ago
    Quoted from cougtv:

    Fear leads to anger.
    Anger leads to hate.
    Hate leads to suffering.
    You’re almost there!

    the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.

    #14 11 months ago

    They are frustrating approximations of real pins. The flipper/ball interaction can be really odd, the ball launch and upper table behavior repetitive, the table and software quality variable. That said, I use it to play games I’ve never played before, games I want and general nostalgia.

    #15 11 months ago

    I don't hate them. They allow you to get an idea of they play etc. of a particular pin before you purchase one.

    #16 11 months ago
    Quoted from SilverBallz:

    Do you like video pinball? Vote now.

    I like it but there is no poll for that.

    #17 11 months ago
    Quoted from SilverBallz:

    Do you like video pinball? Vote now.

    The two options in the poll are "Hate" and "Hate"

    The poll could use some more options, “Like VP, wish it was better”, “Tolerate VP as a tool for collecting/evaluating real pins”, “Love VP”, …

    #18 11 months ago

    I think virtual pinball has only done great things for the hobby. It's not a substitute for the real thing, though.

    #19 11 months ago

    I’m getting tired of the “it’s not real pinball” argument. Well duh.

    That’s about as stupid as saying “I don’t like cinema, because it’s not theater. The actors seem to be less real in film.”

    Comparing Video pinball to real pinball is about as smart as comparing Gran Tourismo to real driving.

    It is just a video game. A pinball video game. In a video game you can do things that are not possible in the real world and the games approximated physics of pinball are not the same as the real world...but no video games have exact physics.

    I like video pinball if done correctly. I’m not as much of a fan of The Pinball Arcade as I am of virtualpin or zen pinball but the games are getting better. I think that the developers need to work on 3D rendering and 4K graphics to make the experience better, but video pinball has progressed a lot in the last 10 years, give it another 10 years and some opinions might change.

    #20 11 months ago

    Its really a different product.

    #21 11 months ago
    Quoted from Luckydogg420:

    I’m getting tired of the “it’s not real pinball” argument. Well duh.
    That’s about as stupid as saying “I don’t like cinema, because it’s not theater. The actors seem to be less real in film.”
    Comparing Video pinball to real pinball is about as smart as comparing Gran Tourismo to real driving.
    It is just a video game. A pinball video game. In a video game you can do things that are not possible in the real world and the games approximated physics of pinball are not the same as the real world...but no video games have exact physics.
    I like video pinball if done correctly. I’m not as much of a fan of The Pinball Arcade as I am of virtualpin or zen pinball but the games are getting better. I think that the developers need to work on 3D rendering and 4K graphics to make the experience better, but video pinball has progressed a lot in the last 10 years, give it another 10 years and some opinions might change.

    you're right. It's not pinball.

    #22 11 months ago

    Recently sold my custom made VP (which was pretty awesome if I do say so myself (RGB lighting, real colour DMD, shaker, 10 solenoids 46" playfield, widebody... etc etc) to fund the purchase of a MET. Took me 2 years to finish the build and I thought it was great. Actually playing MET on it is what put that game on my shortlist, enjoyed the heck out of it. That said... "it's not real pinball" I decided I'd rather have one "real" pinball rather than 100's of virtual ones.

    #23 11 months ago

    I just don’t like staring at a screen playing pinball. I look at computer screens all day in my work. Pinball is my “eye rest” at times. I get up from the desk, walk downstairs and play some pinball to reset. But I am never wanting to play pinball so bad that, if I can’t get to a pinball machine, I will load up a video pinball game. I don’t even like LCDs embedded in the playfield itself.

    Aaron
    FAST Pinball

    #24 11 months ago

    Video pinball is kinda like watching porn, a good reminder of what your missing out on

    #25 11 months ago

    Seems like so many people here only have experience with pinball arcade, pinball fx, or early versions of visual pinball or future pinball. Also, people are playing these on consoles, desktops, laptops or iPads. Playing up to date visual pinball on a full force feedback cab, especially with some of the newer programming (proc emulators and pinup player) is a whole new experience. No, it will never be pinball. But for a lot of the latest VPX tables, it's getting pretty darn close. Close enough to satisfy me vs playing a location quality game (weak flipper, dirty playfield, missing lights, broken plastics, etc). It takes some work customizing a table to your cabs settings, but you can get them pretty close. Plus, I can play BBB, CCC, Kingpin, and King Kong whenever I want. For someone without local location play, it's worth it.

    #26 11 months ago

    Don't hate it but annoyed by the attention it gets. I don't view it as anything more than a novelty, and the arguments in favor of it always fall flat to me. You are better off with ANY real pinball machine (basic EM...even..shudder..SF2...) than a library full of video "tables."

    Fact is I have heard many people say it was their "gateway" to buying real machines so I guess that's a good thing.

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