That was your first mistake. Buy a pin based on what you think, not some sycophant.

Secondly, its NOT Keith's fault that the layout and the "geometry" SUCKS.

This game is a full blown crapper by Balcer and I'm sure largely why he was let go. Code can't fix it.

Onward and upward, looking forward to POTC! Great new designer in Eric and Lawlor coming up next.

All that's left are a few people like Panzer and RH talking to each other, nobody else cares.

Like I said, TH sucks, you and RH can ponder it together.

Anybody that buys a Nib TH is a fool, easy to buy at a HUGE discount in the marketplace all day every day.

I dropped out of my fully paid pre order thankfully after that 2015 expo.

I agree about the drop targets, its different. But Keith could code this thing for the rest of his life and it can't change the layout!

Time to move on, JJP has 3 winners and 1 turd, that's not bad.

Not at all. I hate the THEME myself but it doesn't discount the fact that other people love it, as in a LOT of other people. That speaks for itself and while I wouldn't ever buy it, I did buy WOZ and POTC.

So I see it as 3 out of 4 winners for JJP, just the facts.

And yes Solarvalue, its whiners like Panzer and RH that will bitch about code and toys all day long when the absolute LAST f ing thing anybody ought to be whining about is code that is gonna come out of Keith and crew from JJP.

Pathetic

No problem, you are free to voice your opinion Pimp. You think BM66 blows, that's ok, I don't whine and cry about it, TH blows, that's it.

It's just an opinion, and I don't take it that seriously like you babies do. Wtf

Have you seen any of the Stern threads? I don't hang out in TH threads because i just don't care much. But i am interested when the OP who isn't afraid to voice his negative opinions as if they are fact all over the place here. Along with RH, same thing. Bunch of hypocrites. Fanboy what they like and constantly critical against everything they don't. The facts and threads speak for themselves.

Since I am getting a POTCCE, JJP is relevant to me again.

Again, its just my opinion. Just ignore it if you don't like it.

And for proper context of my own comment towards him I see the previous RH comment about me was totally deleted where he called me a "moron" and "creep" and "i was wrong about everything in life". What a nice guy.

If that's true from his perspective, then I don't ever want to be right about anything!

So carry on about complaining to JJP and Keith about TH code, I've said what I've said here as my opinion and I'm done, unless of course i get personal attacks again for merely stating my opinion.

Since you asked,

1) I have been involved with JJP from day one. A LONG journey that took me all the way through a pre paid TH up to Expo 2015. I dropped out then because of the delays and the artwork and other pins came up during that time period. And substantial changes were made thereafter which I liked but still didn't change my mind. I moved on to other games.

2) As i have repeated ad nauseum for years, the last thing anybody has to worry about with JJP is "code", certainly completion of it with Keith and team. The problem imo with TH is the layout as JG says has been beaten to death in many other threads.

3) I thought Joe was let go back then due to the financial struggles that JJP was having and wanting to go in a different direction because people weren't excited by TH layout. I was told he gave "notice" and actually resigned, so whatever the case, he's at AP now and good luck to him.

4) Pat Lawlor came in and finished up TH design, I supposed it was too late totally revamp it.

5) I own a Balcer designed Woz which i love, and I personally LOATHE the theme of DI so i didn't get it despite being a Lawlor fan.

6) From what i have seen, I really like the POTC design, features and theme, so I bought one. And i have no doubt about how the code will go, just like with Lyman. Nobody said it was a guarantee to be great. But I like it, period.

7) You got to buy TH at a discount because of most people's opinion of it. And they continue to hit the market, steeply discounted. If you like it, that's all that matters

Finally, for myself, it came down to the delays and the layout primarily and now complaining about finishing code to a guy like Keith seems somewhat hilarious to me, especially coming from the OP.