Kansas City, MO
Ax for sure, AG relays in general.
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Quoted from AlexF:I got that sucker dialed in after closely inspecting it a bunch of times. Good and snappy.
Anyway, I may have to apologize to my AX for making this post. Last night I wriggled the score reels a bit and the AX released. Doh! So I cleaned the switches on the 100s reel. Same symptoms, worked and then didn't reset. But I think I'm on the right track. Guessing I have a zero position switch that is barely touching. Just so easy to blame those interlocking relays because they always seem to need special attention on this era.
We'll add decagon score reels to Ax and AG relays. Fiddly damned things.
Quoted from jrpinball:I've often wondered; what was Doc (Garbark) thinking? Sometimes worse!
What they all think. How to do it cheaper.
Alvin Gottlieb was responsible for the AG relay (thus the initials).
Quoted from MarkG:Sure, some of these things can be a pain to dial in. But how many things do you have now that you expect will be running in 50 years, or even 20 years?
These things are like the Mars rovers. They were expected to last a few months and some are working years later.
Absolutely agree, but the difference is Williams and Bally games still work 50 years later and aren't such a PITA to work on. Gottliebs are pretty much the gold standard for features although not true in all cases. But work on a decagon reel and then work on a Williams or Bally of the same vintage and tell me which you'd rather deal with. To be fair, Williams went to the dinky match unit like Gottlieb and theirs is even worse than the AS.
We won't even touch the half moon credit unit. Even Gottlieb realized that was a goof.
Quoted from Classics_Master:I have several 1977/1978 model Gottlieb’s with this relay and never had a problem with them. I guess if they’re adjusted right they don’t fail?
You're lucky. Don't talk about it and press your luck.
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