I missed out on CE but the LE art looks better to me.

To me autographs mean nothing.

Here’s the rub.

I wanted to see the gameplay before I committed to the most expensive pinball machine I’ve ever bought.

I didn’t want something like Munsters LE or like the original Avengers LE. So I said let me wait a day or two. But once I hear it’s getting scarce I call around and no dealers had any.

Too bad now, if say Toy Story is the same might have to buy immediately before seeing any gameplay and I may not like it and get stuck with a pin I don’t love just because I’m scared it’ll sell out in one hour.

However.... the LE (to me) has better cabinet art. I don’t notice the PF art not sure if the gold glitter is good, bad or neutral.

I hope to play first before getting a LE. If anyone has one in Central Florida let me know I’d like to play before committing $10k

Exactly.

ACDC right before Xmle

Same. I got back in hobby just as ACDC was coming out but I completely missed Tron and Tron LE.

I thought XMLE was going to be like Tron LE or ACDC BIBLE also XMLE never made a premium version so I thought there might be no choice but to but before they sold out.

End of the day I didn’t like XMLE and lost almost $2000 selling it. Actually traded for a TWD pro but the price was equal to $4500 down from $6500

iirc Metallica they didn’t announce the premium until after the LE so people might have thought there was not going to be a premium (but this might have been TWD I can’t remember).

Art is subjective like I far prefer SW comic art but many people don’t like it as much as the regular version.

To me the GnR LE with the show posters looks cool different than other pins, like the way they look. Plus a lot of different styles and art details.

CE art is also good but I just prefer the LE.

I don't know.........

Scarcity brings out.....

Flippers and they buy up a block of games and there is not any more to go around, people flip out and pay more.

True scarcity doesn't make a game valuable, XMLE is very scarce and not any premium so less than 600 and that game is not too valuable.

If there was unlimited of say 1500 of the CE, there would not be any flippers buying up a large number to sell later at a hike.

I don't want to say but it could still be dealers looking to sell later for more, maybe they say my allocation is low (but I'm keeping 5 for my friends and family don't you know?)

I have both Met pro and TWD pro not going anywhere. (I think those two games with color DMD, shaker etc.. cost $11K ish) lots of good value there..

This is why *I* didn't thing 12.5K would sell out so fast but here we go, if there are flippers and these CEs go for $15K JJP will see they're leaving money on the table and that people will pay more and more.

I’m about to order one LE vs SE.

Only debate is how fun / important is the upper PF?

I understand this game looks cool with the upper PF, but the fact that two versions exist begs the question if the upper PF is essential or not.

I can not compare Woz or Tspp without upper PF because all versions have upper PF.

Just like I can't say what about if AFM had an upper PF (like GNR) so how would that be?? I can not say, but likely the upper PF would slow down the game and be somewhat needless to the enjoyment of the pin. Maybe just a filler to make it look like it has more stuff.

But if you have two versions like Metallica (one with hammer and physical ball lock and one without hammer and just a virtual ball lock) in my Metallica example.. 100% the hammer / lock looks cool and it adds a wow factor to the pin, but it is *NOT* essential and some people do prefer the pro or maybe they like it just the same as the premium but it's $2K cheaper.

GoT and BKSOR (I prefer the pro).

I’m bummed about the art.

I was just going to buy a SE but figured might as well wait so I can see the light show comparison to the LE.