(Topic ID: 18370)

I can't afford this hobby anymore. These prices are ridiculous.

By PinBill

7 years ago

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    #41 7 years ago
    Quoted from PinBill:

    I'm retired and like to buy the newer games, but these prices are getting outrageous!
    Yesterday when JJP raised the price of WOZ $500 and it's not even out yet, it got me thinking that NIB prices are following the curve of the 90's games, yet with no proven collectable track record. Most do hold their value, but will games with 7-8K price tags really hold their value?
    I think modern MSRP's are going to kill the entire newer pinball industry as they're pricing more and more people out of the market.
    Post edited by gweempose : Thread title fixed.

    I think for perspective, if you look at the costs of some amusement equipment, pinball is not out of line. And if you look at the cost of a new pinball game normalized for inflation and taking into account the increases in the costs of raw materials and shipping (gas prices) over the last five years, there aren't too many surprises. The price of copper, as just one example, has doubled.

    Pinball is being stretched in two directions I think: regaining viability in the location market, but likewise pleasing collectors. It's tough to please both especially when one market doesn't necessarily care about the whims of the other.

    For example, when Ironman first came out it was often criticized by collectors for being too sparse. But in the last year or so, it has gained a sort of cult following for its brutal difficulty, crazy speed and simple yet addictive play. The short game times, in theory, boost revenues for operators.

    STERN tried to please collectors with the costco lite versions, and everyone hated it. But the LEs are selling like hot cakes. So it isn't the manufacturers who are directing prices, it's your well-heeled fellow pinball enthusiasts.

    For now, at least, it seems to work. At some point, the market may eat its fill and decide it's done spending big money on NIB games. If that happens, the mfg'ers will have to try something else.

    #140 7 years ago
    Quoted from PinBill:

    The pros you get for around 4k are not the complete game. It's like buying a TZ without the mini playfield and gumball machine. It's bad enough the software is never finished.
    At least JJ's LE is just cosmetic.
    I think many people are jumping on a lot of these new games because they're afraid of missing out next BBB. I just wonder how long this will last. Is the NIB market that big?

    The differences between the Pros and LEs are so overblown. I've played both of TF, TRON and ACDC and I think the gameplay is actually better on the pro for TF and ACDC, and almost no different on TRON.

    The gameplay difference is similar in magnitude to TAF Gold, i.e. the additional content feels tacked on.

    I think if people were less concerned with keeping up with the Joneses they would probably enjoy a pro more, since they would have more money left over to do a few mod projects like we're seeing on TRON.

    #170 7 years ago
    Quoted from kwiKimart:

    Romney 2012!!! I bagged groceries for his wife one time at my job.

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