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I caught Gary Stern checking out The Big Lebowski at Expo [video]

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9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

He was watching for a while but I only got the last bit on video.

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#2 9 years ago

He's probably wondering if he get dibs on that playfield White Russian

#3 9 years ago
Quoted from HoakyPoaky:

He's probably wondering if he get dibs on that playfield White Russian

You know it!

rd

#4 9 years ago

Is that yoga?

It increases the chances of conception.

Gary *spits drink*

Increases?

-or-

Gary, you're out of your element!

-and-

This cab could use a nice AMC...oops I mean an AMF logo.

#6 9 years ago
Quoted from CaptainNeo:

Was he drinking a white russian?

One after the other as preorders were being cancelled.

#7 9 years ago

He should check out the competition. He should step his game up!

#8 9 years ago
Quoted from 2manypins:

He should step his game up!

He left TWDLE at home.

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#9 9 years ago

A lot of swipes for the company that kept at it while everyone else went home. Where would the hobby be right now if Gary hadn't taken a chance? Does Stern need to innovate, yes.

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#10 9 years ago

Why wouldn't he look at it. That's just smart business. I would be more concerned about the manufacturers that are setting at there booths not looking at the other new products.

#11 9 years ago

One of these days... I will fist bump Gary Stern.

#12 9 years ago

That's what I'd be doing if my name was on a pinball company and i wanted to keep it around as long as possible.

#13 9 years ago

Yep. Its a smart business man who studies his competition and learns from it.

#14 9 years ago

Gary knows what is going on his back room. For all we know, by the time TBL is actually released, the new Stern system will be out and be as impressive, and be able to deliver the game 4 weeks later.

#15 9 years ago

too bad there wasn't someone playing the game while he was there that could make it sing

#16 9 years ago

Gary never glanced at the backglass.. That 'Pinball Wizard Lady' almost nudges Gary, surly he would of spilt his drink then.

#17 9 years ago

That game looks amazing. I'm sure he was thinking the same. If b/w were still making.. This is the type of product I'd expect, and that's a big compliment

#18 9 years ago

Looks like he left at the end after the machine was reporting "balls missing". Is that an error?

#19 9 years ago
Quoted from AbacusMan:

One of these days... I will fist bump Gary Stern.

dude made BBH pro. you gotta!

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#20 9 years ago

Trust me, Gary Stern has the largest advantage by a mile in the pinball world! No one is even close to what Stern pinball can do !

I think it is cool that Gary checks out TBL,I am sure all the other guys looked real hard as well.

#21 9 years ago

when it's all said and done, Gary Stern is the only one who can pump out games with any significant numbers. They still have the market cornered if you want to see more than 1 game every two years. Sorry.

#22 9 years ago
Quoted from davewtf:

when it's all said and done, Gary Stern is the only one who can pump out games with any significant numbers.

Not a big fan of the Pump-n-Dump model. Quality over quantity any day.

#23 9 years ago

Gary is a nice guy in person.

You see him checking out everything at a show, from strange Euro games like Bushido to all the homemade P-roc titles.

#24 9 years ago

Its cool to see Gary checking things out.. And Steve and Lyman at VIP party. No need to bag on Stern, they are pinheads too. If they werent around none of the other efforts would be happening either cause it would of died off.

It is funny that Gary looks like he could be holding a white Russian though

#25 9 years ago

i wonder if Gary placed a pre-order for TBL ?

#26 9 years ago
Quoted from judremy:

Looks like he left at the end after the machine was reporting "balls missing". Is that an error?

yes, the machine hung up after picking up the spare in the lower alley. don't know if was time or some gentle shaking that got things freed up and the game continued without issue. Ball came back onto the upper playfield like a rocket when it finally reappeared.

#27 9 years ago
Quoted from labnip:

i wonder if Gary placed a pre-order for TBL ?

I don't think he cares much about the high end HUO mkt since he has a strong foothold on the commercial side of things.

#28 9 years ago
Quoted from LITZ:

I don't think he cares much about the high end HUO mkt since he has a strong foothold on the commercial side of things.

So easy to forget the LE model represents a very large chunk of all Stern sales, especially in the U.S...

#29 9 years ago
Quoted from Baiter:

So easy to forget the LE model represents a very large chunk of all Stern sales, especially in the U.S...

I would think vault, pro and premiums would out sell the LEs.

#30 9 years ago

Why should gary change his format? Why put in all the time and effort to put that much detail into a game like TBL, when you guys line up to buy his games as is? Dutch Pinball team can put in more effort and energy because they are boutique. Gary sells more to the masses. Has to keep things simple, serviceable and parts easily mass produced.

#31 9 years ago
Quoted from labnip:

i wonder if Gary placed a pre-order for TBL ?

No, but I bet $10K by Christmas that he did pre-order one of these:

Full Throttle Wet Wooly Bunny Lebowski LE (Fu-TWWBLLE). Zeus manicured toe trim package included at N/C.

#32 9 years ago

Are we saying that the Dutch Pinball guys have never looked at a Stern Machine before?

Because....apparently that would be a big deal.

#33 9 years ago
Quoted from pmWolf:

Are we saying that the Dutch Pinball guys have never looked at a Stern Machine before?
Because....apparently that would be a big deal.

It's a big deal because looked and saw there was a need for rugs to cover the ugly Wellverine, Smog and TH book mods.

#34 9 years ago

$8500 for this you say? Hmm, surely we can ask $9500 for the next Stern LE

#35 9 years ago

I don't fault him for checking out other pins.
I'd only fault him if he shut down his shop so he could make more money manufacturing casino games.
But Gary's not that kind of guy, fortunately.

#36 9 years ago

Good job. I thought I was the only one that slinks around taking hidden video of old men.

#37 9 years ago

hehehe
(beware retirement center playgrounds)

#38 9 years ago

Gary's more of a business man than a major pinball fan. All I think he sees are numbers. He looks at TBL and sees the amount of detail, numerous extra custom parts and custom toys, and overall complexity in build, and starts tallying up the numbers in his head to see if it's worth it to pursue that level of detail. I'm sure he sees things he'd like to do, but knows that doing them in the quantities he sells, the ability of his workforce, and at the margin he has on his machines, he probably can't make it as profitable as he'd like. A company that size needs to maintain a solid percentage profit margin to stay healthy and a game as busy as TBL probably just won't get made at a company like Stern.

They've got money going towards future developments, sure. But those developments are largely aimed at making production quicker, easier, and cheaper. The nice thing is that they also make servicing the games easier, too. Have they started implementing the ribbon cable-based system under the playfield yet? I don't know only because I haven't seen. Or was that only for "The Pin"?

#39 9 years ago

So the size and overhead of stern forces it to not take risks and be innovative?

#40 9 years ago

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#41 9 years ago

He's giving it a Stern looking at!

#42 9 years ago

Stern has no reason to make major changes until buyers start voting with their wallets. If Stern's pinball pie suddenly shrinks to less than half, they might be forced into adding features like their competition. The only advantage they have right now is that they are an established company with a long track record with well known proven designers. The greatest pinball in the world from a startup isn't going to match Stern.. But give dutch pinball a few more hit titles with great parts support and customer service, and they just might be going back for second desserts.

#43 9 years ago

If he didn't look people would have said something as well ... Damed if ya do.... Damed if ya dont!!!

#44 9 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

Stern has no reason to make major changes until buyers start voting with their wallets. If Stern's pinball pie suddenly shrinks to less than half, they might be forced into adding features like their competition. The only advantage they have right now is that they are an established company with a long track record with well known proven designers. The greatest pinball in the world from a startup isn't going to match Stern.. But give dutch pinball a few more hit titles with great parts support and customer service, and they just might be going back for second desserts.

Well my bucks are going overseas to a group of clog wearing Pballers. And I am not the only one. Plus after this show Stern, JJP, Skit B, and Jpop found out that there are about 5 others pimping their wares that are not f'ing around. Ignore the waring shots at your own peril. Otherwise you may end up like the dodo bird. A changing of the guard is taking place w/DP,Heighway, Spooky,Roit Pinball, P3 and Python.

#45 9 years ago
Quoted from LITZ:

Well my bucks are going overseas to a group of clog wearing Pballers. And I am not the only one. Plus after this show Stern, JJP, Skit B, and Jpop found out that there are about 5 others pimping their wares that are not f'ing around. Ignore the waring shots at your own peril. Otherwise you may end up like the dodo bird. A changing of the guard is taking place w/DP,Heighway, Spooky,Roit Pinball, P3 and Python.

Preaching to the choir brother!!!!

#46 9 years ago

I am sure Gary got a kick out of the guys having to shake the shit out of the game so the VUK would try to find the ball . When shaking did not do the trick the coin door was opened and they had to get into the menu to manually make the VUK fire so the game would play .

Seen that happen all night .

#47 9 years ago
Quoted from McCune:

I am sure Gary got a kick out of the guys having to shake the shit out of the game so the VUK would try to find the ball

Must have been the one at expo. The one at PBL only had a reset issue with the bash toy switch.

Wizard of oz had far more issues at first showing. If it wasn't shutting down, the ball was getting stuck in ball lock, which usually meant tilting the machine to the side 45 degrees.

#48 9 years ago

Gary's wondering why TBL has spinners on the playfield. Can't imagine how someone could just "give 'em away" without adequately charging for them

#49 9 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

Must have been the one at expo.

All three made it to expo.

#50 9 years ago
Quoted from Giardiasis:

give 'em away" without adequately charging for them

8500 plus shipping is charging for them !

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