I have a really nice one for sale. PM me if you're interested.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fsft-huo-iron-man-for-wh2o-or-afm-one-owner

If it's a classic, STAY AWAY! Smart move not buying it!

Hello fellow TN person.

From what little I know, I think the classic was the "stripped down" version they sold literally at CostCo. It seems to be decently rare, but that's because nobody really wanted them.

Found these differences from another thread:

-Different software
-Boards in base cabinet
-Leds on circuit boards
-No magnets, i.e. Monger, Whip Lash
-No War Machine Kick back
-No coin door
-Press board for cabinet

The big issue for me would be the pressed wood cabinet. I'd worry about the long term quality...

It's an Iron Man with its teeth removed. No fight in it at all without magnets and kickback. On a positive note, I believe the playfield has extra clear coat and is thicker if I am not mistaken? Someone confirm or dispell please.

Somewhat OT: I'm going to look at a very lightly routed IM its in very nice shape! any input on roughly what would be considered a good deal on it?

3800-4200 routed is a good deal at this point in time, meaning DEAL.
if I was selling a routed one with todays pricing I still would ask 4800 for it which is NIB price when it was released I think

Try $3800 for NIB back then.

More like with his balls cut off!

Dont buy that Classic piece of crap....

spend the money buy a nice IM pro and be done with it.. it will make you happy forever...

It will also make you mad forever.. in a good way..

Pass on the cheapo classic.

You won't regret getting IM - I have 20 machines and it's still the one I go to the most.

I'm biased, as I currently have one listed for sale, but I cannot see an Iron Man in any shape go for $3800-$4200.

There was a routed one that even had the Monger head missing that went for $5000 recently. It did sit on the market awhile, though.

Starship troopers was made by Sega. Most Sega's don't sell for over $2K.

What makes IM fun for me is that I am able to get 2-3 kick-ass games on it in a matter of 10 minutes. It needs precise shooting, music is fantastic, and I believe it utilizes the shaker motor better than any other pin if you have a shaker in it.

I have one for sale $6500.

Has Back Box Led kit
Speaker Led kit with arc plastic
Whiplash lighted ropes
Upgraded subwoofer
Mirror blades
Hot rod red armor,
Custom cards
Shaker
Signed by Gary Stern and Borg

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Odd to be signed by Gomez. He didn't have anything to do with the game design and wasn't even working for stern when it came out.

Topper looks quite odd also.

sorry signed by Borg not gomez

Same here. 20 games and if I could only keep one, it would be IM.

Fun game but bring the lube if you are in the market for one. Not many unmodded ones out there and those that are modded are priced at not exactly deal pricing (as you've seen already). Not saying that these are not the market as I don't know what the market really is for this pin but they aren't cheap.

Here is where I'm going to get flamed. Based off what I'm reading I don't see you as being a major Pinball Collector or enthusiast and that you are more looking to fill a gap in your collection/hobby room. If my interpretation is correct save yourself $4K and get a classic. You'll have an IM pinball machine to complete your collection plus you will still have the money to buy that Star Ship Troopers as well and still pocket nearly $2K. If you are a pinball enthusiast then save your money for the Pro but if you aren't then you have to do a cost benefit of what you are looking for especially with a machine like IM.

Pretty bad ass!

I have one that I can sell in about two weeks when I get it back. Currently on loan to someone No mods but it'll be cheaper. EDIT: Sold now. Please no more PMs!

I also know people with Classics that I could probably get you for mid $3s but I wouldn't recommend it. Not only is it less fun to play, but you'll have a hard time selling it when you decide you don't want it anymore. IM Pro on the other hand is a hot commodity.

I can recommend Ryan, he has been great to deal with on a pin I'm looking for...

OP I'd strongly consider buying from him

My fear in buying an IM is the second I do, Stern will announce another run of them (which may very well happen) and a NIB may very well go for similar prices as current used ones.

That would be awesome, but it seems doubtful. IM 3 has already been made. I find it hard to believe whoever signed the rights to IM would be ok with it coming out again

I'd love an Iron Man too, but I'm not willing to lube up - so no game for me so far.

I'll be the buzz kill. This solidifies my thought process. I truly think you will be just as satisfied with a classic. You are actually the perfect market for the classic as you are more into the theme than the actual pinball play. I've seen classics pop up here and there for sub $3K and I don't see why you couldn't find one for mid $2's if you are patient.

I'll give you some advise I wish someone would have told me when I first started in this hobby. DO NOT fall into the "gotta have it now" feeling with pinball. If so you will overpay just about everytime. The best way to do it is to set some funds aside and be patient for the right thing to come along. You may actually have better luck with cragslist and Mr. Pinball with a WTB add for a classic. To be frank, Pinside (or any pinball forum) is not going be the market for a classic With a WTB add be very causious as that is where the scammers get real bad. Try to pick something up but if you can't I can't recommend enough having someone check the pin out for you first. If nothing else they can confirm it really exist. Most on here would be willing to take a short trip to help out so you can post a request and location and I'd bet you'd get a bite.

Happy hunting and I wish you best of luck with your decision. This is a hard one to make. We all go through it at some point. Normally now is the, should I get the pro or the Prem version

Listen to so much good advice that others are giving you. The most important thing in this hobby is "patience" and truly it is rewarded most of the time. I will give one quick example (I have many but this is my most recent). I just bought a beautiful HUO ELVIS. I missed buying Stretch 2 Elvis a few months ago back for $3,450 (great price). However, the one I bought yesterday I found on CL for $2,800 with very, very low plays HUO. My point.....patience is always rewarded and sometimes I don't follow my own rule....LOL. When I do I am rewarded and when I don't I pay up.....LOL !!! I am learning to be more patient and truly seasonality matters when buying or selling. Better to buy in the summer and sell late or early in the year as prices soften normally in the summer and strengthen around X-MAS and early in the year.....you can save 5-10 percent just by buying during the "weak period" as opposed to the stronger period (hey 5-10 percent can be a decent number on a $6K pin....lol).

Also, I find it is sometimes better to travel if you have a region 2-3 hours away that has lower prices (I find Northern Virginia is always more expensive then say Harrisburg area and one is an hour away and the other is 2-3 hours but the best deals I find are normally in Harrisburg or around those areas....maybe I have just got lucky).

As for IM, it is a hot pin with limited supply. Pros and Cons to buying one. Due to the limited supply and popularity it might hold its value (relatively speaking) then say buying a AVLE.....I know that title seems to go down $100 a month every month lately.....

Finally, I believe in paying extra for a nice condition pin (it is worth is if you try to resell it as nice examples of popular pins have a lot more "appeal" to people then "players condition" so if you get lucky enough to find a pin in GREAT SHAPE for not much more then "players condition" on some of the older titles YOU JUMP ON IT and don't ask questions.....LOL !!! Pins prices are based on condition more then anything I have found.

Good luck to you.......take your time as truly IM price in my opinion will "soften" come the summer so you have time to make your decision.....

Nice, here's the one I decided to go with...

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I told my self if one came up locally for a good price I'd buy it. A few weeks ago I got a text from a friend that just picked up a super nice one with tons of mods. He asked if I knew anyone looking for one because he needs $ for a ST. He said $4700 & was over there ASAP! It came with a bunch of new mods in the coin box that hadn't been put on. I've recently done them but no pics yet.

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Nice. I'd cash that in too, if it came up.

No longer headless - his double stepped in to relieve him.

It certainly helps to have friends in pinball. I keep a game (two at the most) at any given time, but I'm not that active. The only "local" stuff I see is on Craigslist. And I have to tell you the Detroit area is AWFUL as of late. It's the same junk pedaled by a few over and over again. There doesn't seem to be anything for sale anymore by just a regular ole' hobbyist. Kind of sucks.

Damn Breadfan your collection is getting epic!!!
Ps. Please Keep me I Mind if you hear of an MB for sale down your way.

great game, miss mine as was a forced sale, mine sold for $7k here in Aus.

here is a mod thread to give you ideas for when you find one
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/iron-man-mods

The $ I spent on it was supposed to be being saved for the next NIB rock music pin that comes out. If,or when that happen,my buddy is going to buy my IM for what I'm in it so I can get my music pin. If i was to sell it after all the stuff I'm going to do to it,I think $5500 firm & it would be gone quick.