Good luck robertmee

Its the best pin to date, Just sold my pro and added a premium

I've heard as low as 6200 shipped but can't confirm, but I just paid 6325 shipped.

I'd work a trade with you of you were closer... I'd love a TSPP

TSPP is the better game than AC/DC but I sold mine to get one.

Weren't you saying 3 weeks ago ACDC was he greatest ever?

I'd consider the same trade with my TSPP. Good luck to you!

ACDC is good, but not TSPP-good. Right now ACDC is new but if you're patient you can surely make that trade.

No it isn't. Not even close.

They're about 2000-2500 apart on pricing, that's a lot of money to give/get on a trade.

ACDC & TSPP would really compliment each other well, just make it rain & own both

Why not sell a different machine, donate plasma, build an addition, rob a bank?

I know this isn't a poll thread but I too feel TSPP has more to offer a player than any version of ACDC. Of course I can certainly see the appeal to ACDC too.

Ahh the hard decisions we have to make as North Americans with disposable income while living in the highlight of the petro-electric culture.

I too have both and they make nice complimentary pins. If one HAD to go, I'd get rid of ACDC with no hesitation.

Wow! If you think that's the difference, then you're right, you will have to be patient! Too many TSPPs come up for sale/trade.

Duh.

Is it really required that I put "IMO" after every post?

At least quote it correctly. I said 2000-2500.

Lets just see what happens, yes?

So you expect to make full market price for your Tspp but expect the person with ACDC to take a loss. Sounds like flawed logic since you're the one looking to trade.

+1

Help how?

Explain that to me. Were you or anyone else actually confused as to whether my statement was an opinion instead of a fact simply because I stated it with "conviction" (to use your words)?

Keep TSPP. I do like AC/DC, but there's no way I'm giving my TSPP up for that.

TSPP and LOTR are the two best Stern games to date IMO but I get stick of any game no matter how good so I sold both for a XMEN LE and AC/DC pre. I am happy to be able to rotate games in and out, I rarely miss anything I sell... Just not that attached I guess.

Yeah it's the "not even close" ...Opinions are opinions but I would say they are equal quality games in the sense that they both accomplish what they set out to do in an extremely polished way. They're so different conceptually it's kind of weird to compare them in any other sense that they represent physical design/code sync at their very best.

ACDC excels at being modern, that's for sure...and there's an argument for that aspect making it superior in an audio/visual sense. The sound quality and color changing light shows are insane! TSPP is a modern classic, though...and I believe will remain so.

Sounds like you're taking it personal. I don't care if my acdc drops by 2k its not for sale and I don't have a premium. Unless Stern made too many ACDC machines don't expect the price to drop. I was just telling it like I see it, sorry if that bothers you. Also your last question can also be true of you with your TSPP. You just let me know what I said that was untrue. Anyway goodluck with your trade.

Robert , you are better off selling the TSPP as I doubt you will find a trade. I sold a perfect HUO TSPP last week for 4K without trying so I am sure you can get between 4 to 4.5 k for yours.

AC/DC is in another class and should not be compared to TSPP .

Jim

Both are great games with vastly different play styles and approaches. I compare AC/DC to a game of darts. Players are each going to get their turn and can employ any strategy they wish to earn their points. TSPP is a long, slow game of modes. Sure, scores matter a bit, but it is not a game you can really play with others as the ball times can be so long.

I love TSPP, but my play style has changed. I prefer the quick games that kick me back.

And the award for most presumptuous comment of 2012 goes to..

Modern? Modern??? I like the game but it's modern in that 1978-era technology is "modern." The game ISN'T EVEN IN STEREO! There's nothing revolutionary about it; there's no unique playfield features. The bell is kinda cool, but it's not unique. There are a dozen games with cannons in them. Stern should have dumped that crappy low-res DMD 5+ years ago.

TSPP was a ground-breaking, innovative game, introducing all kinds of cool features and gameplay dynamics. ACDC is nice but it's not in the same league as TSPP. TSPP has tons more shots. ACDC is Stern simply picking a theme that doesn't suck as bad as their other themes, and doing a *halfway decent* version of it.

And because pinball manufacturers have been living 20 years in the past, when one of them adds a modern day piece of tech like RGB LEDs everybody freaks out like monkeys around a monolith. It's a shame the bar has been so low for so long that this makes a game "greatest evah!"

Yes, everybody is entitled to their opinions, but wait a year and see if ACDC is still as widely regarded. It won't be. Right now it's the flavor of the month.

After re-reading your post I do see where I could have missed your sarcasm. Sorry about that. It might have helped if you put a little winky emoticon at the end of your post IMO.

Nice edit. Jackass

Seriously, go troll elsewhere. You know everything already obviously, and yet nobody seems that interested in taking advantage of your spectacular wisdom.

You should change your avatar to picture of a guy sharpening an axe.

Every day pinside gets more and more like RGP. Why in the hell do supposedly grown men resort to such schoolyard behavior once the audience gets over a certain size? My pin can lick your pin.. Nannie Nannie boo boo.. If you didn't feel Roberts proposed trade was realistic just move on or wish him luck. I'm sure ACDC is as good as Stern gets these days given the love it's getting lately but better than a time tested and proven TSPP? Well, time will tell.

Robert, my advice is keep TSPP, Stern quality was at its peak with that one.

If you do decide to do it, good luck!

Why sell it if its the better game to buy an inferior game?

EVERYONE I know has sold/got rid of their TSPP very soon after the purchase. It's OK but no keeper! It's one of the Stern "Old" clunkers, just play and you'll see. The rules are way to deep and the shots just don't flow! Love how the game looks but it BLOWS! Bottom line is trade that game ASAP, if you're grabbing a ACDC? Smart move. 100X the game TSPP is.

I wish you were capable of having fun.

Case and point exejet

Classic ! Bitches about the activity being negative on Pinside , then gives out his own backhanded insult to newer Stern owners ?

Jim

Seriously, *you* stop trolling me. It gets pretty old seeing you respond to my posts with your tired crap. Speaking of a know it all. Is there anyone here on all of Pinside who pretends to have more knowledge than you? Nope. Not one.