(Topic ID: 32021)

HSII rebooting


By cowman57

7 years ago



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#1 7 years ago

While playing HSII, it randomly stops game and will go to "testing rev L-5" screen on DMD. I assume that's what's meant by rebooting. Anything I can try to fix this....Thanks in advance.

#2 7 years ago

Check our connectors, also you should do the upgrade jumpers from bridge rectifiers to capacitors.
Check out pinwiki.com for further information.

#3 7 years ago

Go through the wpc reset guide at pinwiki.com. There are tons of things that can cause this.

#4 7 years ago

If it has the original caps and bridge rectifiers I would replace them. I also re-flow all the pin headers or replace ones that need it if I pull the board to do the bridge & caps.

Cheap & easy.

#5 7 years ago

I have done some minor board repairs, and would be willing to try replacing some components if I knew where on the board they were, and what to replace them with.

#6 7 years ago

Had a similar problem with my HS 2, when I brought it over to a friends house. It was randomly rebooting, turnout it was just the voltage in his house. When I brought the machine home it worked fine, no problems.So it could be something as simple as that.

#7 7 years ago
Quoted from cal50:

If it has the original caps and bridge rectifiers I would replace them. I also re-flow all the pin headers or replace ones that need it if I pull the board to do the bridge & caps.
Cheap & easy.

For an experienced board repairman, this might be cheap and easy.
But, what if the root cause is one of the 7 or 8 other items listed before caps and bridges in the PinWiki? Then the owner will have performed unnecessary board work. The old mantra to replace the bridges and caps has probably caused way more problems than it has solved. Let's not go there yet.

To the original poster...surf on over to www.pinwiki.com
Check out the Williams, WPC, "Disciplined process for resets" section. You'll find it.
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#8 7 years ago
Quoted from CookyJar:

Had a similar problem with my HS 2, when I brought it over to a friends house. It was randomly rebooting, turnout it was just the voltage in his house. When I brought the machine home it worked fine, no problems.So it could be something as simple as that.

Thanks for chiming in.
Yes...low line voltage is at the top of the list, and this lends credence to the idea of working through the list in the Wiki.
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#9 7 years ago

Before I test anything . You should make sure you have correct power going to the machine . Like if you have a suircut that is over loaded it will make some machine reboot . I had this happen on a fish tales such is the same kinda system . No more than 3 machine on a 20 amp breaker .

#10 7 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

For an experienced board repairman, this might be cheap and easy.
But, what if the root cause is one of the 7 or 8 other items listed before caps and bridges in the PinWiki? Then the owner will have performed unnecessary board work. The old mantra to replace the bridges and caps has probably caused way more problems than it has solved. Let's not go there yet.
To the original poster...surf on over to http://www.pinwiki.com
Check out the Williams, WPC, "Disciplined process for resets" section. You'll find it.
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Yes, it could be something else or a combo of other issues but for me its standard fare to "bullet proof" a board doing a minimal shotgun approach on perishable components. In this case HS2 is likely 12 years old but still a candidate for bridge and cap replacement and the standard fare of checking connectors for issues and re-flowing header pins. Correct line voltage is assumed......

The only problems it could possible create is if someone is doing the replacement that does not know what they are doing in which case they should not be doing it if not comfortable doing so.

It could be something as simple as coil diodes or something more sinister, stay tuned.

#11 7 years ago

The only problems it could possible create is if someone is doing the replacement that does not know what they are doing in which case they should not be doing it if not comfortable doing so.

Like this, for instance....
I see this far too often. Wrong tools. Little expertise. Little experience. Lots of jumpers.

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#12 7 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Like this, for instance....
I see this far too often. Wrong tools. Little expertise. Little experience. Lots of jumpers.

Someone was reading Clay's guides & had a pistol soldering iron.....
You can tell a professional iron becasue it has headlights on it.

Bridges and caps are cheap unless someone uses pliers or a torch to remove them.

#13 7 years ago
Quoted from cal50:

Someone was reading Clay's guides & had a pistol soldering iron.....
You can tell a professional iron because it has headlights on it.

And some old rosin flux loaded solder...I love the crunchy brown stuff...
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#14 7 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

And some old rosin flux loaded solder...I love the crunchy brown stuff...
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That could be some Kester 44 prototype stuff........

Kester 44, extra crispy.

#15 7 years ago

Believe it or not, a bad garage door opener was causing my HS2 to reboot.Game was in a nearby room

#16 7 years ago

I believe it , I had something happen like that . and thanks to my fellow pinsiders , problem was solved quick and easy, enjoy that HS2 ... keep it reel and pass it on ...

#17 7 years ago

Mine was doing this as well and it was because of low voltage. With the proper voltage going to it it has not done it once.

#18 7 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Like this, for instance....
I see this far too often. Wrong tools. Little expertise. Little experience. Lots of jumpers.

The unfortunate thing is, at this point, I'd guess a majority of the WPC games still in the wild have these sorts of issues.

#19 7 years ago

Thanks all....Don't think it's low voltage. It's been in two rooms, and the only thing turned on. Will still test outlet, and reread pinwiki again. I'll get back to you.

#20 7 years ago

Bad coil diode? I would watch it closely and try and see if it is reseting when a coil is fireing, ramp raiseing or lowering, diverter actuating ect....

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#21 6 years ago
Quoted from ChrisHibler:

Like this, for instance....
I see this far too often. Wrong tools. Little expertise. Little experience. Lots of jumpers.

A little overkill if you will.

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