(Topic ID: 153248)

How to tame CoinTaker's shaker motor

By Mcpit

5 years ago


Topic Heartbeat

Topic Stats

  • 113 posts
  • 58 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 9 months ago by Ecw0930
  • Topic is favorited by 53 Pinsiders

You

Linked Games

Topic Gallery

View topic image gallery

20210113_214230 (resized).jpg
0819201857_Film3 (resized).jpg
Red Tremor weight (resized).JPG
15812691890211833979780262557654 (resized).jpg
powa (resized).JPG
15502533609704778673900148911954 (resized).jpg
37091589-0F01-49F7-A2F5-28C6E3506B31 (resized).jpeg
IMG_5748 (resized).jpg
002 (resized).JPG
2SZ_3884 (resized).JPG
pasted_image_(resized).png
voltagecontrol_pwm_0_(resized).png
CoinShaker_(resized).jpg
image_(resized).jpeg

There are 113 posts in this topic. You are on page 2 of 3.
#51 5 years ago

Okay finally tried to install controller and it is not working. Hoping it may be how I have it connected and not a bad controller. Shaker still shakes but contoller does not reduce the amount of shake at all no matter where the control knob is.

I have grey shaker wire that connects to brown/white machine power connected to - 'in' on controller and red wire connected to red/white machine wire to + 'in' on controller. I have black wire from shaker going to - 'out' on contoller and red wire from shaker to + 'out' on controller. Am I doing something wrong here?

#52 5 years ago

Sounds right to me. Can you post a pic? I'll do the same with mine when I get home.

#53 5 years ago
Quoted from The_Dude_Abides:

Am I doing something wrong here?

Whoops.....you hooked it up wrong. Your output is correct, but You have the wrong inputs. You need to splice the other connector, the inputs are the black and red wires from the shaker board not the gray side.

#54 5 years ago

Basically I just cut the 2 wires going from the PCB to the motor, and inserted the PWM controller between them.

#55 5 years ago
Quoted from foureyedcharlie:

Whoops.....you hooked it up wrong. Your output is correct, but You have the wrong inputs. You need to splice the other connector, the inputs are the black and red wires from the shaker board not the gray side.

IMAG0380_(resized).jpg

Quoted from swampfire:

Basically I just cut the 2 wires going from the PCB to the motor, and inserted the PWM controller between them.

Okay that makes sense figured I had goofed it up. Thanks for the help guys much appreciated!

#56 5 years ago

Can someone take a picture of the pinbits AFM shaker printed circuit board with and without the connectors installed on the pinbit printed circuit board and post. Also, if you have any paperwork, with circuit that would be great to post also. I am looking on how to install a used one.

thx

#57 5 years ago

Was ready to sell my Red Tremor because it was just way over the top, but bought and installed the controller per the instructions here and am very happy with how it turned out. Thanks everyone!

1 month later
#58 5 years ago

Just ordered one for my TWD premium. The shaker just seems to be used alot it this game. Hopefully it helps out.

2 months later
#59 5 years ago

I was about to pull my Red Tremor out of my MET Pro and sell it until I installed the Pulse-Width-Modulated (PWM) controller. Thanks to the OP and all others that posted with installation help.

Prior to the PWM controller I tried:
- Moving the center of gravity of the counter weights closer to the shaft (my weights had two through holes both threaded for the lock nuts). A minor improvement.
- Adjusting the weights about 90°, 135° and 170° apart. I found a sweet spot between 135° and 170° apart which seemed to work fine during the coil test but the shaker was still too strong for my taste during the full Sparky zapping.

I have the pin on a concrete floor and it felt like Red Tremor was vibrating the machine across the room.

The controller was best $1.97 (including shipping, arrived from China in 15 days), I've spent on ebay (http://goo.gl/3SmRPG). Listing is/was "1pc New PWM DC 6V/12V/24V/28V 3A Motor Speed Control Switch Controller" and the seller was "cell.expert"

The Red Tremor is much better behaved and feels closer to a stock Stern version although it is slightly louder (The picture shows the temporary mounting with earthquake putty).

I'd use this combination again in the future on another shaker enabled machine.

2SZ_3884 (resized).JPG

2 months later
#60 4 years ago

I have done this mod a many times on my SAM games..... Love it as you can really dial it in for maximum shake not just extreme rattle.

Can this also be done to SPIKE game without any issues ? Any info would be appreciated

#61 4 years ago

Do NOT do this on spike games. Pops a node board.

I've done this to Gottlieb Gladiators as well. Works nice!

#62 4 years ago
Quoted from nerbflong:

Do NOT do this on spike games. Pops a node board.
I've done this to Gottlieb Gladiators as well. Works nice!

Thank You sir...... Thats what I was wondering and went with a Stern one from pinball life

#63 4 years ago

Has anyone tried the controller on Full Throttle? I don't want to blow a node board or worse.

2 months later
#64 4 years ago
Quoted from swampfire:

Basically I just cut the 2 wires going from the PCB to the motor, and inserted the PWM controller between them.

Just installed PWM and this really is the easiest way. 20 minutes and done! Works perfect for my TWD premium!
002 (resized).JPG

#65 4 years ago
Quoted from neverahighscore:

Just installed PWM and this really is the easiest way. 20 minutes and done! Works perfect for my TWD premium!

I use the controllers on all my Sam games. You can really dial them into your liking

#66 4 years ago

No support for spike still right?

#67 4 years ago

I have a new spike shaker from cointaker in the market, not red tremor. $100 shipped.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/44752

3 months later
#68 4 years ago

Yeah... I installed an old nib Red Tremor... Jesus .... it rattles the floor lol...

The shaft has a notch for the weights... so cant put them at 180 from each other. They always kinda sit parallel.
But the weights have another hole for the shaft on them. I used that and helped. But still... shakes way too hard.

Next step I ordered on of those board from fleabay. Until then I think I'll turn it off until something breaks

4 months later
#69 4 years ago

Yep, the PWM worked for my LOTR with a Stern shaker. It rattled & I just wanted a shake, dialed it down and kept the weights facing the same way, all good now.

7 months later
#70 3 years ago

Went to Allentown last week and picked up my second Red Tremor. The first one went into my AC/DC with none of vibration issues, but the new one—I thought my TWD was going to go airborne. This thread is gold. Thanks to all who identified the switch on Amazon and everybody else who supplied photos and instructions. The switch was easy to wire and worked like a champ.

2 weeks later
#71 3 years ago

I just got a Metallica with an older cointaker shaker motor in it. It was horrible, make a racket, clanky as hell. I adjusted the weights every way possible, installed a PVM, still janky.

The issues was 4-5 mm of play on the motor shaft itself. Whenever the motor went off, the shaft slammed back and forth inside the motor housing.

I took it apart, and hammered the pictured end in, with both weights, loose on the shaft to keep it straight/even. This removed most of the play in the shaft. I then put 2 washers on the motor side of the bracket mount.

It now works properly without all the racket. If nothing else worked for you, might give this a try.

IMG_5748 (resized).jpg

3 weeks later
#72 3 years ago

I bought the controller off of Amazon and it works fantastic.

#73 3 years ago
Quoted from mack505:

I just got a Metallica with an older cointaker shaker motor in it. It was horrible, make a racket, clanky as hell. I adjusted the weights every way possible, installed a PVM, still janky.
The issues was 4-5 mm of play on the motor shaft itself. Whenever the motor went off, the shaft slammed back and forth inside the motor housing.
I took it apart, and hammered the pictured end in, with both weights, loose on the shaft to keep it straight/even. This removed most of the play in the shaft. I then put 2 washers on the motor side of the bracket mount.
It now works properly without all the racket. If nothing else worked for you, might give this a try.

Are you sure this is a cointaker motor? That looks awfully like one of mine.

2 weeks later
#74 3 years ago

Bought an after market shaker for my TWD which is a little to wild for my feeling, especially when used so often. Reminds me of my roadshow

I ordered the PW controller as suggested. Can tell you that changing the resistor value also helps but the tunabolity of the PW is interesting and as I am going on holiday anyway deltime is not an issue.

Does anybody recognize the brand of shaker. Was bought in europe but could it be a Pinball life shaker or ...? It comes with a cover by the way.

37091589-0F01-49F7-A2F5-28C6E3506B31 (resized).jpeg
#75 3 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

Bought an after market shaker for my TWD which is a little to wild for my feeling, especially when used so often. Reminds me of my roadshow
I ordered the PW controller as suggested. Can tell you that changing the resistor value also helps but the tunabolity of the PW is interesting and as I am going on holiday anyway deltime is not an issue.
Does anybody recognize the brand of shaker. Was bought in europe but could it be a Pinball life shaker or ...? It comes with a cover by the way.

Unfortunately I can't help you with the shaker motor, but I do have to say, that's a crazy loose tilt!

#76 3 years ago

My inelegant solution was to put a post rubber between the bottom of the cabinet and the shaker motor. Reduced the shake by about 40-50% I’d guess. I do like the alternatives shown above though!

#77 3 years ago

I meant putting a post rubber on each screw, so the shaker is now slightly rises off the floor of the cabinet.

#78 3 years ago

That’s an awesome idea @michaelrobrien. Even though I have the Stern OEM in my TWD, I prefer the one in WoZ. It has a nice vibration to it as opposed to a crazy shake.

I might try that with the OEM Stern and see if I like it any better.

#79 3 years ago
Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

I meant putting a post rubber on each screw, so the shaker is now slightly rises off the floor of the cabinet.

It doesn't work... Before I did the PWM controlI tried many different things and this was one of them .

1 month later
#80 3 years ago

Installed the PWM board and this works like a Charme. Great solution, thanks.

6 months later
#81 2 years ago

Wanted to install this motor control board (from earlier in the thread) with my MMR shaker, does anyone happen to know which is positive and negative?
I'm assuming the yellow with red line is the positive,
And the solid blue is negative?

Sadly the manual doesn't seem to list it out.

15502533609704778673900148911954 (resized).jpg

powa (resized).JPG

#82 2 years ago
Quoted from Rensh:

Installed the PWM board and this works like a Charme. Great solution, thanks.

Where can you get that PWM board? I’d like to put it in my Stern SW, currently feels like it shakes the entire house!

#83 2 years ago
Quoted from JoinTheCirqus:

Where can you get that PWM board? I’d like to put it in my Stern SW, currently feels like it shakes the entire house!

I've had good luck with this one: amazon.com link »

#84 2 years ago
Quoted from Reznnate:

I've had good luck with this one: amazon.com link »

You can use it on spike games? I thought you couldn’t.

#85 2 years ago
Quoted from Lermods:

You can use it on spike games? I thought you couldn’t.

He can’t ..... it will blow the node board out

#86 2 years ago

FWIW...For a few dollars more, this is a MUCH better designed and built controller.

amazon.com link »

1 month later
#87 2 years ago

ordered the 5 pack..installing on this weekend. Great thread!

3 weeks later
#88 2 years ago

Wanted to report back. Bought the 5 pack and they work great. Installed 2 of them. I have it dialed back. Only real trick us splicing in the board so you have enough slack to secure It out of the way.

Next question. Looking at a GoT with a tremor. How can you dial back a spike ?

4 weeks later
#89 2 years ago

So has the manufacturer of the red tremor motor ever addressed the issue? i. e. they still don’t work out of the box at a reasonable level until you buy an aftermarket fix and wire it in?

#90 2 years ago
Quoted from Zorak:

So has the manufacturer of the red tremor motor ever addressed the issue? i. e. they still don’t work out of the box at a reasonable level until you buy an aftermarket fix and wire it in?

I don't think there is anything to address. I think the whole idea of the Red Tremor is that it is ridiculous. They accomplished that, nothing else to discuss.

#91 2 years ago

cool thx I’ll look for another option

-1
#92 2 years ago
Quoted from Zorak:

So has the manufacturer of the red tremor motor ever addressed the issue? i. e. they still don’t work out of the box at a reasonable level until you buy an aftermarket fix and wire it in?

No issue to address, love mine

#93 2 years ago

I had CT regular shaker in my LOTR. Took it out after it almost destroyed it. Red Tremor would have been worse. Put in a PL shaker made for Stern. Works great.

#94 2 years ago

I’m referring to the original issue from years ago— The reason the OP started the thread. Just surprised to see that it hadn’t been fixed, or for the cost they don’t include a controller still. I get that some of you don’t think it’s an issue, I just don’t prefer my shaker motors to loosen parts off the rest of my machine

#95 2 years ago

PM me if you are selling a shaker motor. Any version is fine.
I'm looking for a Stern Rev A shaker interface board too.

-1
#96 2 years ago
Quoted from stangbat:

I don't think there is anything to address. I think the whole idea of the Red Tremor is that it is ridiculous. They accomplished that, nothing else to discuss.

Yeah, it confuses me why people are saying it shakes too much... that's what it's supposed to do no?

I've bought 3 or 4 normal shakers from Cointaker and have been happy with them. I knew I'd hate something called "TREMOR" so I steered clear. Don't really think it's up to CT to fix anything...

#97 2 years ago

If you have a tremor shaker and dont want it, I'll take it. Only need the motor and housing.

#98 2 years ago
Quoted from JeffF:

Yeah, it confuses me why people are saying it shakes too much... that's what it's supposed to do no?
I've bought 3 or 4 normal shakers from Cointaker and have been happy with them. I knew I'd hate something called "TREMOR" so I steered clear. Don't really think it's up to CT to fix anything...

Exactly....it's like buying a Lamborghini and complaining that it's too fast.

#99 2 years ago
Quoted from Irishbastard:

Exactly....it's like buying a Lamborghini and complaining that it's too fast.

More like a Lamborghini with square wheels. Not sure what is so hard to understand? Compared to the factory Stern or Pinball Life shakers even the regular shaker from Cointaker is WAY too strong. My Metallica literally wanted to walk across the carpet when I first got it. Better no shaker than Cointaker shaker.

-1
#100 2 years ago
Quoted from John_I:

More like a Lamborghini with square wheels. Not sure what is so hard to understand? Compared to the factory Stern or Pinball Life shakers even the regular shaker from Cointaker is WAY too strong. My Metallica literally wanted to walk across the carpet when I first got it. Better no shaker than Cointaker shaker.

I've had mine in my ST since I got it a few years ago... nothing has "rattled apart", "fallen off" etc...I love it... Yes, I definitely notice the difference compared to my TFTC, but causes zero concern.

There are 113 posts in this topic. You are on page 2 of 3.

Hey there! Got a moment?

Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run thanks to donations from our visitors? Please donate to Pinside, support the site and get anext to your username to show for it! Donate to Pinside