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How to remove start button on Addams family

By Karpy1717

5 years ago


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#1 5 years ago

Hey guys I have an Addams family and recently bought an led kit and changed everything out. However I could not for the life of me figure out how to remove this start button.... I didn’t want to break it so wanted to know the best way to go about this. Any help is appreciated!

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#2 5 years ago

Should just pull the white part from the black part. It is usually a tight fit and take a grunt or two. If it is a newer switch, which this doesn't look like, it would be turn the white part to the right (I think) if you're facing the start button.

#3 5 years ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Should just pull the white part from the black part. It is usually a tight fit and take a grunt or two. If it is a newer switch, which this doesn't look like, it would be turn the white part to the right (I think) if you're facing the start button.

Some of them turn a bit, then pull out, some simply snap straight in.

The snap-in types take a bit of force, it does feel like it's going to break, but it's OK.

RM

#4 5 years ago

Thanks for the help! I got it out but now when I put it in the start button got stuck and won’t press. Anything to do for this?

#5 5 years ago

Sometimes you have to snap it in really hard. Make sure the switch part inside the white part (it's actually two pieces) is snapped in fully too.

#6 5 years ago

Well I snapped it in and it pressed but now it won’t start.... does that mean a connector is loose?

#7 5 years ago

Yes, check that one didn't come loose. Those snap in ones act like they're in but need a bit more force. Is the button clicking when off when pressing the start? You may need to try with game off.

#8 5 years ago

Yes button clicks but doesn’t start

#9 5 years ago
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#10 5 years ago

Here's a picture I found from my TAF that shows the wires going to where they should be.

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#11 5 years ago

Can you carefully place that switch from shorting and testing it if it works when it's not in the start button housing?

#12 5 years ago

Sorry not sure what you mean.... I did try clicking the top button with my hand but nothing worked. Here is image when it’s in just to show

#13 5 years ago
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#14 5 years ago

I assume you put it back together with an LED in there? Sometimes that prevents the button from working properly. The LED is typically bigger than a standard bulb. Look to the side to see if the plunger is actually pushing in on the micro.

#15 5 years ago

That’s with the button pressed

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#16 5 years ago

Pull the micro or just finger the switch while in switch test to see if the micro is ok.

#17 5 years ago

Few more pics I dug up from my refresh.

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#18 5 years ago

so good news... while in switch test it did register as start button

#19 5 years ago

Ah, yes @greenmachine19 sounds like he's onto why it may not work. Note the two wires on the outside do the lights. The inside two are the switch.

#20 5 years ago
Quoted from Karpy1717:

so good news... while in switch test it did register as start button

So there is a start button specific LED that is shorter. Did you use that or regular style?

#21 5 years ago

So if it registered as a start button in test, that means it sees the signal to start the game... the light is irrelevant at that point. So it should be working.

Is it in free play? Did you remember to put the balls back in? Sounds silly but it happens...

#22 5 years ago
Quoted from goingincirclez:

the light is irrelevant at that point.

Unless it is sticking up too high and you can't push the start button in. Didn't he test it with the switch off the holder and just push the knob ?

LTG : )

#23 5 years ago

I read it as he tested it installed on the machine but I suppose yes, otherwise it might be a bulb issue for physical clearance; I meant the bulb was "electrically" irrelevant regarding all the photos of the wiring, oops. I installed an LED in the similar button on Dr Who and don't recall having an issue. Guess I was lucky!

#24 5 years ago

Alright so I put the old light back in and it worked. I think that the led’s that I have are incompatible. It’s just the old light doesn’t even shine so that’s annoying. I think that it all depends on the led size. Any way around this?

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#25 5 years ago

I've found some LEDs when I've put in the start and extra ball and buy-in buttons don't allow me to push the buttons. There has to be a LED bulb that works for them but I haven't gone searching for one yet. The base is too wide or they are too long to allow the button to be pushed in.

EDIT:
Well I just looked and they do make something. I just made a pinball life order last week. Wish I would have added a couple of these to try out. I'll get a few on my next order.

https://www.pinballlife.com/ablaze-3-led-slim-wedge-body.html

#26 5 years ago

I did this on my DM and had to trim away some plastic on the LED so that it would clear and the button would fully depress.

#27 5 years ago

That’s actually a good idea I’m going to try filing some away and I’ll get back to you

#28 5 years ago

Sorry I got pulled away but sounds like you found your issue is the LED physically. Here’s a regular SMD and start version LED. Trimming one should work at edge too. You can see comparisons of all three bulbs.

Since I have a start button (actually super ball but same physically) handy, here’s a few pics showing the switch. I’m sharing as I didn’t know this when I got into hobby. But that switch has two tits (yes that’s a technical pinball term) and you carefully pry and end and can swing it out.

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#29 5 years ago

Yep I had the light on the left that has the little bumper from the first picture. Going to get trimming now!

#30 5 years ago

The only concerning thing is that when I use a duplicate of the light in there it (non-led) doesn’t work??? Any reason as to this happening

#31 5 years ago
Quoted from Karpy1717:

Any reason as to this happening

Bad connection, broken wire. Go into Tests - All Lamps - put a meter on it and see what DC power you have.

LTG : )

#32 5 years ago

Don’t have a meter but I’m going to try the trimming pretty soon here

#33 5 years ago

Turned it on and it works great. Trimming worked and fixed it. Thanks for everyone’s help

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