(Topic ID: 297850)

How to properly check System 1 small transformer?

By Chisel

2 years ago



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  • Latest reply 2 years ago by phishrace
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#1 2 years ago

So I’m trying to diagnose dead displays on a solar ride.

So far readings are:

Lugs: AC unless noted DC
7- 14v / 14v
6- 11.58v / 11.5v
4- 11.60v / 11.5v
3- 14v / 14v
9- 35v / 69v (do 8 and 9 combine to make the 69v?)
8- 35v / 69v
12- 2.65v / 5v
11- 8.1v DC / 8v DC
10- 2.665v / 5v
15- 1.537v /3v
14- 4.147v DC / 4v DC
13- 1.54v / 3v

Oddly to me the readings that are approximately half what they should be start where they should be for a split second then settle to half value.

To get these reading I’m putting black wire on lug 5 and red on xformer outputs. Is this the correct way?

Another odd to me thing…. TheAC line in filter outputs: one has two white with grn/blk stripes and reads 67.5v. The other with white with red/blk stripes reads 50v. The maintenance outlet reads 117v.

Does this sound like a harness issue and not a transformer issue?

Thanks. I’m no electrician so please be easy on me!

****update.

Checking outputs of the A2-P3 pin 1 is 60v pin 3 is 40 volts and pins 7 and 8 are reading 1.4vdc and 1.5vdc respectively.

#2 2 years ago

Test incoming voltages at power supply board.

http://www.pinrepair.com/sys1/index.htm#power

#3 2 years ago

I’m sorry I’m not sure I follow. Where exactly should I measure?

Line in? It’s 120

#4 2 years ago

Follow the link above and scroll down until you see:

Testing the System1 Power Train.

Long scroll, should've warned you.

#5 2 years ago

Ok all voltages check out except pins 6 and 7.

Pin 1 - 12.25 vac
Pin 2 - 12.25 vac
Pin 4 - 14.81 vac
Pin 5 - 14.82 vac
Pin 6 - 34.44 vac
Pin 7 - 35.52 vac

**edit - reading through some other posts on pinside I read that you should check the 69v across Pins 6 and 7. If I do that I get 71.3v

Thoughts?

#6 2 years ago

Ok after going through these exercises and learning to read voltages correctly on system 1 it seems my voltages may be ok. I started looking other places …

I unplug all displays then plugged in one at a time. Seems my player 1 must be dead or shorted. With it plugged in I got no displays. Going through the rest they all work now except player 1.

So sorry if I wasted your time phishrace but I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction for measuring the power voltages. This was good for me and I learned something!! Thank you again!

On to the next thing. Dead drop target coil.

#7 2 years ago

No prob. Nice work figuring it out.

Consider replacing all displays with LED's. They use less power and look pretty close to original. Sets run around $200-$250.

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