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How to install shaker motor in LOTR standard edition


By markmon

8 years ago



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#251 2 years ago
Quoted from drummermike:

What is PWM? I need to sell my CT motor.

I have a cointaker shaker in my game, no issues. They sell different versions, you want the stern shaker. The red tremors have more vibration I’ve found.

#252 2 years ago
Quoted from Reznnate:

For those that have added the shaker, can you confirm that it's possible to restart your game after a bad ball (by holding START button)? (i.e. A1-35 set to YES)
Mine doesn't restart and I can't figure it out.

Mine will not restart.

#253 2 years ago
Quoted from Lermods:

I have a cointaker shaker in my game, no issues. They sell different versions, you want the stern shaker. The red tremors have more vibration I’ve found.

My CT is not the red tremor. I did not know to order the Stern at the time.

#254 2 years ago
Quoted from drummermike:

That Pinball Place had the ROMs and Pinbits had the PAL.

Thx!

#255 2 years ago

Quoted from Reznnate:
For those that have added the shaker, can you confirm that it's possible to restart your game after a bad ball (by holding START button)? (i.e. A1-35 set to YES) Mine doesn't restart and I can't figure it out.

Quoted from drummermike:

Mine will not restart.

Thanks for the confirmation. Sounds like an odd software bug. Also explains why Stern was unable to help or explain it.

#256 2 years ago
Quoted from NullFlavor:

I feel like I am so close, but I am also not getting the shakes from my LOTR. My symptoms are the same as arcademojo had, with one exception. I have 10.02 installed, new PAL installed, factory reset, nvram clear, I can hit service coil #12 and it shakes. The only thing I have not done is upgrade the sound OS to version 8. From what I can gather, this seems to be a "do it if you need it" kind of thing, but can anyone confirm that this is necessary? I did notice that once I replaced the PAL, I started getting random callouts and momentary loudness from the speakers, so I want to update anyway. Also, could anyone confirm the part number of the PAL? The part number that I have seems different than some of the others that I have seen listed, but I did get the chip from a trusted source, so I have no reason to doubt that it is right.

nullflavor mine turned out to be a bad PAL chip. I got it new but it didn’t work. I broke down and bought another one and that one worked. Sent my bad one back and got an exchange. So now I have an extra one.

#258 2 years ago

I haven’t installed it yet... but ordered this one from Amazon.

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The eBay one is cheaper if you need 5, but I like the amazon return policy better if things go wrong.

#259 2 years ago

arcademojo do or would you be able to take a picture of the PAL chip that you have in your machine? The part number that I see that people have online seems different than the one I installed in my machine, but I don't know if that really matters. Perhaps the one that I installed is still compatible.

2 months later
#260 2 years ago

I have had no issues with any other mod or repair on my LOTR machine but my roms were really pressed in tight. I tried removing the display rom from the back of my DMD first since it was easier to reach and managed to bend the pins and broke a bunch trying to bend them back. I was able to get the pal and cpu rom out much easier after I ruined the display rom and took my time to get the old ones out and new ones in correctly.

However I am know without a working display rom, I assumed the cpu rom would work as the replacement since they were both 10.0 before and they are same size however it does not give any display and the one with the broken pins clearly will not work either.

Will a new 10.0 display rom fix this issue?

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#261 2 years ago
Quoted from ruzeo:

However I am know without a working display rom, I assumed the cpu rom would work as the replacement since they were both 10.0 before and they are same size however it does not give any display and the one with the broken pins clearly will not work either.

Not the same. One is Game Rom and one is Display ROM.

Quoted from ruzeo:

Will a new 10.0 display rom fix this issue?

No idea if you hurt Game ROM or not. I'd replace both and hope nothing else.

LTG : )

#262 2 years ago

It was the old 10.0 game rom since I bought the new 10.02 one so I had the replacement for that already. Ordered a new display rom for the dmd so just waiting for it to arrive now.

1 week later
#263 2 years ago

New display rom is in now and working great. Thanks LTG for the help and thank you everyone in this thread was really easy to get it working and it was well worth it!

#264 2 years ago
Quoted from ruzeo:

New display rom is in now and working great. Thanks LTG for the help and thank you everyone in this thread was really easy to get it working and it was well worth it!

Great to hear that fixed it. Nothing worse than having something break and you hope that was it, waiting for parts to test.

#265 2 years ago

I was really worried I wont lie but I figured if there was a real risk of breaking something else from snapping the pins then Lloyd would have told me straight. Felt much better confirming my suspicion it was only the display rom.

#267 2 years ago

thanks Dave couldn't have done it without you

2 weeks later
#268 2 years ago

Not sure if anyone has asked and/or addressed this question; I have a color dmd installed, will I have big issues trying to get this shaker set up working correctly? Thanks

#269 2 years ago
Quoted from teletub:

Not sure if anyone has asked and/or addressed this question; I have a color dmd installed, will I have big issues trying to get this shaker set up working correctly? Thanks

no, the dmd has nothing to do with the shaker. i have both installed in my machine.

#270 2 years ago

Ok, based on the whole topic, i have to change my PAL.

CPU is 10.02 - Display is 10.00 , OS is 8
shaker is working well when grounded, and spinning but slower in test mode.
But nothing during the play

Shall i go to another PAL ?

#271 2 years ago
Quoted from BENETNATH:

Ok, based on the whole topic, i have to change my PAL.
CPU is 10.02 - Display is 10.00 , OS is 8
shaker is working well when grounded, and spinning but slower in test mode.
But nothing during the play
Shall i go to another PAL ?

Pinbits has the model number LTLEPAL chip you need. Then you have to reset the pin to factory setting to get it to recognize the motor.

#273 2 years ago

I got mine from Astill, game runs like a champ now

#274 2 years ago

Ok, will try to get a refund from the shop and buy it in pinball.center. Cheaper than getting it from Astill

1 year later
#275 1 year ago

7 years later and this post is still helping others... thanks @op and thanks astill for the shaker and roms! Install was a breeze... set a GC on my first game with the new rom installed!

#276 1 year ago

x2. The shaker and roms from astill worked great, and I would have been lost without this thread. A great addition to LOTR.

Quoted from roar:

7 years later and this post is still helping others... thanks @op and thanks astill for the shaker and roms! Install was a breeze... set a GC on my first game with the new rom installed!

3 months later
#277 1 year ago

Anyone know if pinbits or anyone else will have the PAL chip available again? I modded my LOTR a few years ago and sold it and now I want to do it again with another machine. If not, I guess I will have to buy an LE model.

Thanks

#278 1 year ago

There are some aftermarket shaker kits available now. One form pinsound and one from pinshakers?

There were some threads on them in the last week.

#279 1 year ago
Quoted from glasairpilot:

Anyone know if pinbits or anyone else will have the PAL chip available again? I modded my LOTR a few years ago and sold it and now I want to do it again with another machine. If not, I guess I will have to buy an LE model.
Thanks

Yes, the one from Pinshakers should work. They are still testing whitestar games, but I’m pretty sure it will work. I tested one for wh20 and it’s really nice. Simple install, all plug and play and very customizable across flashers and solenoids.

#280 1 year ago
Quoted from Lermods:

Yes, the one from Pinshakers should work. They are still testing whitestar games, but I’m pretty sure it will work. I tested one for wh20 and it’s really nice. Simple install, all plug and play and very customizable across flashers and solenoids.

I think we are talking about 2 different things. Looking for the PAL update, not the shaker motor.

#281 1 year ago
Quoted from glasairpilot:

I think we are talking about 2 different things. Looking for the PAL update, not the shaker motor.

Sorry, didn’t know you had the setup already and just needed the chip.

#282 1 year ago

glasairpilot Try https://mattsbasementarcade.com/product/stern-pinball-gold-dot-pal-chip-u213-965-5023-00/
I recently got a full set, good price and he sells them separately also.

#283 1 year ago
Quoted from Chappie101:

glasairpilot Try https://mattsbasementarcade.com/product/stern-pinball-gold-dot-pal-chip-u213-965-5023-00/
I recently got a full set, good price and he sells them separately also.

Thank you for that source. I'm trying to decide if I should do a standard and convert it or just buy an LE and be done with it. Does the LE come standard with a shaker?

#284 1 year ago
Quoted from glasairpilot:

Thank you for that source. I'm trying to decide if I should do a standard and convert it or just buy an LE and be done with it. Does the LE come standard with a shaker?

I put the shaker in my standard LOTR. It was easy once you get all the chips. I like the look of the standard better.
The only issue I had was the pin must be set back to factory setting to get the shaker recognized.

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