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how ridiculous...this Pinside Top 100 ranking

By ParisPinballAdct

3 years ago


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    #47 3 years ago
    Quoted from mbeardsley:

    The reason why TMNT (and similar "new" titles) always get "on top", is that early on, nearly the only people who have played them are the people who bought them early. And these people always rate them very highly for a few reasons...

    They don't always get to the top right away.

    Two great pins, TWD and BM66, started out in the 100's for various reasons.

    BM66 due to such early code and some Stern hate based on the way they launched that game and SLE send in a video request etc.

    TWD, another Lyman game, had really early code too and was difficult to get dialed in.

    Both games had potential greatness and finally got there.

    THUS, due to the early barrage of negative voting those two pins will never reach the level they deserve based on more recent ratings.

    #66 3 years ago
    Quoted from mbeardsley:

    Yes, that's true...but those two cases are the exceptions, and I would argue that this is reasonable.
    For example, when I played TWD, I thought it sucked (and I still don't understand what people see in it) and it was likely that this was partially due to early code. But all too often, on location, the early code never gets updated by the operator (unless there is some problem that requires an update)...so that's the code that (non-owners) play and know (and rate by).
    The BM66 near me still had no secondary villain modes the last time I played it (not sure what version it was, but was obviously early). And while I still like the game, I'm not going to give it a better rating just because someone on line says "the new code is great".
    If you are going to release an unfinished game, you can't complain if people rate the game based on what they actually play, not what might eventually get released.

    I'm not complaining about the ratings. The only ratings that matter for me are my own, like many others.

    Just pointing out its not always going straight to the top for various other reasons, as such they have no way to recover in these rankings.

    That's why you can modify your settings to view it any way you want in rankings.

    But hey, its all in fun anyhow!

    #68 3 years ago
    Quoted from IdahoRealtor:

    No pin with those big, shitty mono-targets on the sides belongs in the Top 10.
    Elwin won't use them. Borg puts them on everything lately. Elwin > Borg.

    x 1000%

    Elwin is a player that cares a lot more about the player experience and Borg should take note.

    Those mono targets suck and are partially to blame for the shitty code on games like Munsters.

    #77 3 years ago
    Quoted from mbeardsley:

    I think MB and MM clearly deserve to be up at the top, and I think EHOH and POTC are over-rated. Just shows you how different people are different.
    (and I think WH20 is way under-rated)

    I have a restored WH2O and would have to disagree

    I really really like it but it’s no EHOH, JP or STH for that matter

    But it’s fun for a few plays

    Agree that POTC is overrated

    MB is the most gorgeous pin ever. CGC version. Also deserving of its lofty status

    I’d say top 8-15 ish though

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