Definetly didn't hit GAT

I'm pretty sure I didn't hit 9 shots for gold because 7 shots are lit to start. Need to shoot 4 shots to get all 7 shot to the light. I know I didn't shoot enough shots to re light the pf 2x

You are correct. I was mistaken on how many shots you need to re light all the shots. I thought it was 4. But it's actually 5.

Because of this thread. I changed up on style of play.

I use my Klingon multi ball on PD2 because of that must hit warp ramp. With ball save on. I let the balls drain and try to nail the warp ramp.

Does anyone know or have a good idea how the game determines the shot sequence for SJ 1,Nero 1, STE 1. Is it pure random or variables. I normally finish KB 3 before I start Nero 1. But sometimes. I might do Nero 1 if kb3 the first shot is the warp ramp

I notice some games in nero1. Sometimes the game won't re light shots unless I make all the shots. Then sometimes it will re light quickly.

STE 1. Sometimes I get the alpha ramp lot repeatly. Sometimes it's the right side shots.

SJ 1. It's really slow the shots light up after making a shot.

I'm new to this thread so apologies if I'm covering old ground! I understand Tuna_Delight is making a rulesheet for Star Trek, really looking forward to seeing this! I've had my Star Trek Pro for one week now and trying to get my head round the rules, as others are saying I would love to see a complete rulesheet. Any news on when this might be ready?

What's the combo value, always 2x shot value?

Very interesting. I always wondered about the scoring. I thought for a while it was completely random.

This does change my strategy when playing for score. It seems more advantageous to play "easier" missions (even those in level 2) to build value of additional missions.

I really like how the rules were designed to encourage play and to not time out modes.

I do wish there was more encouragement to combo shots (other than 2x score). Perhaps combos are counted as part of bonus or increase base value of multi-ball jackpots?

Does anyone know how GAT scoring is calculated? The machine I play just got the new code so I am just learning the value of playing the GAT mini-modes.

I was shocked to see the left orbit giving 1.5m+ when GAT was active for Save the Enterprise. This 1.5m+ seemed to increase every time the left orbit switch was hit. More valuable than jackpots. Combos from left orbit to warp ramp even more valuable

A combo should double the value of any major shot (2x what it should have been) in both modes and mutli-ball. I know it doubles the Vegence Multiple final shot from 5m to 10m. I also know it doubles the super ramps value.

I do wish there was more encouragement to combo shots (other than 2x score). Perhaps combos are counted as part of bonus or increase base value of multi-ball jackpots in future code.

I think this is ST's real downfall.

It's wants to be a combo's are important game so bad, but it's really not. The points are all in getting far in the game.

I made a post a few weeks back, Destroy the Drill GAT spinner doesn't change its 75k per spin.

The other shots, it depends when you hit the GAT shot. The earliest you ca make GAT is the second shot of the mode, the points related to the GAT shots will be low but increase with each additional hit.

See my posts #81 - 84

The data is incomplete, but seems like each additional shot adds 75k

This is true. What do u think. Every mission. Every shot should be worth the same points throughout the game?

Not at all.

More it would just be cool if there were some big points strategy that wasn't just get to the wizard modes.

I'm well aware there are some big points strategies, such as completing all 3 DtD's and Nero's and then starting StE's GAT mode. But that's a lot of setup, and in the end it's still not all that valuable.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge fan of the game, but it's not without it's flaws, and unfortunately I doubt we'll see code changes that are that drastic.

All of my highest scoring games a generally the result of making it too EA and in my best game I had double scoring going into both KM and EA, which equated to bonkers points. And knowing that, and where my comment above came from is that to make it to EA, I have to harness my inner Spock and slow the game way down. Which means basically not trying to make any combos, and mostly ignoring the warp ramp.

Wishfull dreaming is all.

There have been lots of good ideas presented in this thread and several others, but odds are they aren't happening and that's a shame.

If they do nothing else, I'd like to see the warp ramp points boosted up a bit. Most dangerous and fun shot in the game. I'd be cool if there was a Warp Ramp all day strategy, because that would still be lots of fun.

Congratulations! You write English better than half the United States!

Don't hesitate to post more! You'll get better that way!

How do the second tier missions work?

There'll be mission color shots plus red or color changing shots? What counts towards completing the mission? Are the II or III tier missions on a timer?

Red shots worth more. Still only count as 1 shot for the mode. There are timers, but you must complete the modes by hitting x shots. Your progress towards x is saved if your timer runs out.

I think I've hit some regular color shots but didn't decrease the number of hits remaining. Don't think it's a switch problem. Might need to take the glass off to confirm.

Also how do you get medals in later tier is it still 3,6,9 shots?

Not exactly sure, but it can't be. Shots needed for completion varies, but I'm sure one of the modes only needs 8 shots to complete. Maybe that is where the timer comes in.

Thanks for all the contributors, great info here.

That would be Klingon Battle II. You only need 8 shots, but I believe they have to be the color-changing shots.

Wow!

Just bumping this up.

Was curious to hear what's the view of the Away Team missions. Are they worth playing or just some more than others.

On the one hand they give you more time and more chance to score gold medal and such but on the other hand they extend the time to beat the mode which makes it less likely (for some) that they'd complete a whole tier of missions since more time to lose a ball.

Space Jump away team is not really worth it since it is just one shot. Klingon Battle is left and right ramps which can be hard at least for me. I like all the others. Prime Dir. is the top lanes - easy and fun. DtD uses the warp ramp. Difficult but very great fun. Same for StE that uses spinner. Nero is pretty good but dangerous hitting red targets

Unless it is by accident, I never play Nero Away Team without a multiball.

I think it really depends upon the circumstances. Sometimes I do the away teams to extend the time and try to get gold. Sometimes I do them because I have multiball lined up and want to score some serious points with Nero or PD away teams. If neither of those apply, I usually don't do the away teams unless there is some other compelling reason.

The GAT missions = HUGE points. Especially the Prime Directive and Save the Enterprise.

PD lights both orbit shots and top lanes. Left and right orbits always ends in lanes due to gate. I've had 20M plus totals for this mission
STE lights left orbit and warp ramp. I've seen values over 1.25M for these shots. Combo for even more.

I also like Destroy the Drill.

DTD lights a spinner for 75K per spin AND the left scoop and left orbit are the only shots lit for the rest of the mission.

See Zack Sharpe play some of the GAT missions here:

Thanks for all the info so far! ST is the only pin in my area that is still in playable condition.

going to watch that, thanks.

When I make it to KM which I'm now doing more often but only playing level 1 missions.

How is the mode color shot value awarded? What if I played level 2-3 on a mode would the shot value be much higher?

I very rarely go past level 1 mainly because my main stragegy was just to get towards kobayashi maru multiball. After watching the vid above i attempted level 1-3 on Nero and I am supprised how well the dots look and how the modes play out!

I've been playing more, relatively speaking so I've gotten to KM 4-5 times now, but also just started to play three deep like Nero. Lots of fun in this pin. I had it next to SM for a while but sold SM for Tspp. But I like how ST you can play different modes or strategy moreso than some other pins.

I'm hoping the rules doc is still being worked on.

I'd recommend "drilling down" into the Level 2 and 3 modes. They are fun and have some cool animations/call-outs. They also add to your medal count which can make getting to Maru more valuable. Some are very easy to finish (such as the Level 2 Red mode) while others (STE level 2) have more difficutl "required" shots.

I usually go for Maru and maxing out Level 1 and Galactic Away team modes when playing on location and going for score and replays, but if (when?) I owned this in the home environment I'd definitely play more Level 2 and 3 modes.

Hi Tuna_Delight, I was just interested to see if this is something you were still planning on working on, having seen your strategy doc for Mustang i'm more than a bit excited to see one for Star Trek! Nice work. Cheers

How do the standup targets next to ramps work. I know they're active for Nero GAT, but during regular play I noticed they light up and stay lit. Is there a significance of getting all the targets lit solid?

Complete them to light the black hole target

The red matter targets are tied in with the black hole stand up target. I think lighting all the red matter targets lights black hole, or something like that.

Thanks and what does the black hole target do?

What movie is this from?

Black Hole gives a reward that varies, which one you get partly depends on what mode you have running at the time. It will generally add a ball during multiball, add time during the level one missions. It can also just give points, or increase the value of the pops. I think it will light special on rare occasions as well.

All of that and occasionally light extra ball

Starsky and Hutch reboot!

K I just had the best game ever

1.7B finished all missions

KB - shoot vengence center shot to start it
EA - shoot the mission to start it

5YM - how do you start this? I was shooting the ball every where and couldn't start it. There was no obvious lit shot for me.

Anyone know?

You start all 3 Wizard modes by shooting the vengeance. The droptarget is going down when you finish the last Mode of the tier. Shooting behind starts the Wizard Mode. This is the only lit Shot at this moment.

Have you started 5YM on the latest code?

Yes, three times, but wasn't able to finish it

Is someone still working on the comprehensive rule sheet for the game? I could use it...

I would enjoy this as well

Interesting

I know for sure KM I shoot the vengence to start

I have only made it to EA once. But I was fairly certain I made the under the right upper flipper shot to start it because i collected the medals bonus. But I could be mistaken. It was a 2 ball multi ball. I am suppose to shoot the flashing targets. starts out flashing blue. Make a shot then that target stays solid blue. Somehow I did something that changed everything to flashing white targets. But I drained 1 ball and the mode was over.

The FYM. I was certain I shot the center vengence but I could be wrong. I know for sure there was nothing flashing to identify the vengence shot. I basically had 2 balls to shoot around with and I couldn't start it. I had the captains chair flashing with 110 hits in the pops. I finished that because I started Klingon multiball.

Hmm. If I ever get that far again. I LL shoot the center ASAP

Thanks

yes you started ea. Still dont think you did this by shooting under the right flipper, but to be honest, i never tried this...
If 5ym is ready, the machine will show you this very clear. The vengeance shot is lit very aggressiv. Only thing that i can imagine where you have 2 balls in play and nothing is lit(except an error), maybe you were in vengeance Multiball after defeating the vengeance.
Keep on trying and have fun with this great game