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How Many Of Us Here Are EM Guys? Poll.


By PMcGee

5 years ago



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    “Are You An EM Guy/Gal?”

    • I prefer EM machines so consider myself an EM guy/gal 77 votes
      27%
    • I prefer SS/DMD machines, so consider myself an SS/DMD guy/gal 96 votes
      34%
    • I don't have a preference - I like all pinball. 108 votes
      38%

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    #51 5 years ago

    Robin is out of touch with reality if he believes that there are not many em vuys here. I am another one.

    #52 5 years ago
    Quoted from MrBally:

    Robin is out of touch with reality if he believes that there are not many em vuys here. I am another one.

    It does seem a bit absurd......

    #53 5 years ago

    I may be picking up my first EM this month (helping a friend clear out his mother in laws basement).
    A 1964 Bally Bongo. It's been sitting unplayed in a climate controlled basement for decades. Super excited because I love EM artwork.
    Any of you guys know of it?

    I have to admit I'm a bit intimidated to work on it if it needs anything done under the playfield or inside the backbox.
    I've only done full tear downs on Williams SS and WPC games.
    Praying I don't screw up the mechs because of my inexperience.

    #54 5 years ago

    I'm down to 50/50 in my old age. At 57 years old, I started at 100%.

    #55 5 years ago

    At 62 I've been a collector of vintage cars, pinballs, watches and tube stereo equipment for many years.
    Enjoying the "rebirth" of my pinball youth- during the last few years when my children have grown and moved out, I'm slowly selling off the SS and DMDs that were in the house and replacing with EMs and some wood rails that were part of my childhood.
    Currently with 2 woodies, 4 EMs and holding on to the Theater of Magic. I'm friends with other EM collectors in the area and met a few more recently at the Allentown show.
    Joel

    #56 5 years ago

    I believe that many of the younger guys in the DMD camp have never given a good playing EM a real chance. I also believe that those who have, soon discover that EMs are lots of fun and are a welcome change from what they've grown up with. I remember very early on in my "pinhood" that I wouldn't look twice at a woodrail. It was mostly 3" flipper, drop target, '70s type games for me at that time (and "Dimension" of course!) Over time, I came to appreciate the earlier pins, and now prefer 2" flipper games and I really like many of the woodrail games as well.
    Any SS/DMD to EM converts out there, speak your mind. I know "Gerry" is one, right?

    #57 5 years ago

    I can't imagine having a pinball collection without at least one EM. I love 'EM. (See what I did there?) haha

    #58 5 years ago
    Quoted from oldcarz:

    tube stereo equipment

    Yeah, that's when cranking out tunes and heating your house could be done with the same appliance!
    Love that old audio gear as well. Reel to reel tape decks, electrostatic speakers, tube amps... that was
    hardware!

    #59 5 years ago

    I'm here.

    Steve J.

    PS. Hello to Znet.

    I recently got a William's bat handle from Znet via the RGP site, and he has the most wonderful EM games collection.

    #60 5 years ago

    Until recently, exclusively EM. However, I've taken the plunger into Gottlieb System 1, but really, that's technically a SS with a whole bunch of EM thrown in.

    #61 5 years ago

    Here. Went off the deep end into EMs this year. Started buying EMs in January... and then rebuilding, then buying, then buying... Lots of fun to get working and to play.

    I started with 3" flippers now have mostly 2", the exceptions being pro football and El Dorado. Those may not last long in the collection- 2" rules.

    #62 5 years ago

    I'm currently all Em. I've owned and enjoyed a few SS games but favor Ems for the art and easy maintenance. 2" flippers for me too. My most modern game currently is from 1965.

    #63 5 years ago

    4 of my 10 gameroom pieces are EMs.

    #64 5 years ago

    I am currently EM-less, but actively looking for another one. Actually that's not entirely true because I'm storing a friend's EM here, so I can get my fix while searching. My game room feels incomplete without one!

    2" flippers all the way.

    #65 5 years ago

    im an EM guy also . i enjoy working on them as i do playing them. i have only owned and sold EMs. dont get me wrong i like all pinball machines. i like helping others with my repair knowledge in this site and in another pinball site. what about any EM gals? lets hear from some of them.

    #66 5 years ago
    Quoted from jrpinball:

    Over time, I came to appreciate the earlier pins, and now prefer 2" flipper games and I really like many of the woodrail games as well.

    An interesting observation are the comments from my children. Now 30+, they've grown up during the 80's and 90's and were exposed to a household of SS machines and old cars in the garage. I taught all 3 kids how to drive a stick shift, control a car with bias ply tires and drum brakes, understand the concept of a carburetor and, heaven forbid, drive without air conditioning or a bluetooth. As a practical matter, of course, today they all drive safer and more reliable late model cars, but it's nice to hear comments that there was "something special" about driving the '57 Chevy Belair vs. the 2005 Cobalt.

    Similarly, the kids enjoyed learning body English and nudging on the pinballs and, during an era when video and computer games were rapidly becoming popular, they still gravitated more toward Funhouse than Space Invaders.

    The "something special" as applied to pinball was best defined by my son - (now 31). He compares old cars and old pinballs to modern versions and observes that it is true that modern cars and pinball are more "refined"...better electronics, bells, toys and whistles. The older machines are "charming" and more challenging in many ways than the newer ones. Machines with 2" flippers and wide gaps between them are very intimidating...they are hard and clearly were designed to favor the vendor. A ball that lasts a minute and scores several hundred points is exhilarating. Even the kids have seen for themselves that a game like Theater of Magic can be shredded with practice. And playing a ball for minutes on end and scoring billions of points in a game (literally) does become boring.
    There's a real satisfaction when you can walk up to an old friend, like Slick Chick, crack the knuckles and give it a ride. She'll beat you more times than not, but when you have those games with multiple specials lighting, and all bumpers at extra values, and you hear pop-pop-pop and you've rolled the score reel....well, that's an experience I never had playing Addams Family....
    Joel

    #67 5 years ago

    All EMs all the time. Owned about 15 games over the past 10 years, all EMs. Currently have 6 and like them all but gravitate to the 2" flipper games.

    #68 5 years ago

    I don't consider myself an "EM guy" but I do own 3 of them. I am trying to remember how many EM's are owned by members of my local league----(not many). I grew up in the 80's and should probably not care about EM pins but I still do. I do not enjoy working on EM's nearly as much as I do SS. Playing EM's with a group of friends is some serious fun. Even more so with cocktails.

    #69 5 years ago

    Would love to join the club. But for now, mostly lurking reading everyone else's experiences. So does coming to the EM section first every time I come on Pinside count?

    #70 5 years ago

    count me in... i plan on being buried in one...

    #71 5 years ago
    Quoted from Chrisbee:

    Best if you start a new topic under a more generic heading, like “All Pinball” and start a poll.
    Cos like reader digest (survey 6 people and publish a result), you have bias the result by asking Em People if they are Em people!!
    I would love to see the answers too!

    Thought we would get a more accurate accounting by asking those folks who regularly frequent the EM sub forum. If you are on Pinside and an EM guy, you go to the EM forum.

    I wasn't really wondering who has EM machines, but, using Robin's terminology, who considers themselves EM guys. We have DMDs, but I don't consider myself a DMD guy. I like all things pinball, even (muttering under breath) pachinko, but my EMs make me happiest.

    #72 5 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    count me in... i plan on being buried in one...

    Me too!! I've often told my wife the same thing!!
    I have 10 EM's & 1 DMD

    #73 5 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    count me in... i plan on being buried in one...

    Hopefully one with a bad cabinet and shot playfield with a flaking backglass. Need to keep the nice ones out of the dirt.

    #74 5 years ago

    Nothing but em's here..........

    #75 5 years ago

    I only have one EM, but am looking for another. I like pretty much all pinball machines, but the newer ones get more love in my home from everyone else.

    #76 5 years ago
    Quoted from orangestorm87:

    Would love to join the club. But for now, mostly lurking reading everyone else's experiences. So does coming to the EM section first every time I come on Pinside count?

    Yes, I think so. You are an EM guy.

    Join the club, watch Craigslist and pick up the first cheap EM ($100 or so) that pops up in your area. Don't worry about other pinheads' opinions on it. You can get a lot of satisfaction from that $100 purchase, even if it is a "dog" - same money as two cartons of cigarettes or 12 six packs of Bohemia. And unlike cigarettes or Bohemia, you can use it for as long as you want and probably get all of your money back out of it when you get rid of it.

    #77 5 years ago

    I LOVE EM'S! And I am not afraid to admit it!

    They are so satisfying to bring back to life! They could be sitting for 50 years and all it takes is a little switch and stepper cleaning/adjusting and they come right back to life!

    My bling loving, flashy car driving retired MLB playing cousin comes to our gameroom and, surprisingly, prefers EMs to any of our newest DMDs because, as he says it, it takes real skill to play these games and aim your shots. He spent more time playing a 1967 CC Beatniks than the Creech right next to it!

    EMs for the win!

    #78 5 years ago

    EM's. 3 for 3

    Love to poke. Fine tune. Make things better.

    #79 5 years ago

    Top Reasons Why I Consider Myself an EM Guy (Despite Rat_Tomago's objections to the contrary)

    10. 1/3 of my collection is EMs.
    09. I can bring a dead EM back to life.
    08. I can troubleshoot EM problems and resolve them.
    07. I can take a dirty EM playfield and make it clean and shiny.
    06. I can play a 2" game and roll it.
    05. I can play a 3" game and roll it.
    04. I troll CL, pinside & eBay for EM deals.
    03. I have EM projects.
    02. I am a member of the Yahoo EMPinballMachine group.

    And the #1 Reason I consider myself an EM GUY

    01. I love them.

    Marcus

    #80 5 years ago
    Quoted from poppapin:

    Me too!! I've often told my wife the same thing!!
    I have 10 EM's & 1 DMD

    glad i'm not alone there... i REALLY wanted rotordave to head to nj, it would have been hilarious for my neighbors to see a pin being hauled out and put in a hearse...

    Quoted from PMcGee:

    Hopefully one with a bad cabinet and shot playfield with a flaking backglass. Need to keep the nice ones out of the dirt.

    good point... that flip flop project i have should fit the bill...

    although, since i'm being burnt upon my demise, i could just have her scatter some ashes in various machines... what's a little bit more dust?

    #81 5 years ago

    Count me in I'm down to one DMD game and 6 em's not counting gun games I've had a ton of SS/DMD games through the years but I'm back to where I started, EM's were my first playing experience and I love playing them along with everything else about them including the engineering and the artwork.

    #82 5 years ago

    Only have one the one EM currently: a '54 Gottlieb Woodrail I've owned since 1981.

    Would love to have more Woodrails and some 3" EMs one day.

    #83 5 years ago
    Quoted from Xerico:

    Top Reasons Why I Consider Myself an EM Guy (Despite Rat_Tomago's objections to the contrary)
    10. 1/3 of my collection is EMs.
    09. I can bring a dead EM back to life.
    08. I can troubleshoot EM problems and resolve them.
    07. I can take a dirty EM playfield and make it clean and shiny.
    06. I can play a 2" game and roll it.
    05. I can play a 3" game and roll it.
    04. I troll CL, pinside & eBay for EM deals.
    03. I have EM projects.
    02. I am a member of the Yahoo EMPinballMachine group.
    And the #1 Reason I consider myself an EM GUY
    01. I love them.
    Marcus

    I've got 7/10 of those, so even though I don't own one at the moment, I'm going to make an executive decision and call myself one too.

    #84 5 years ago
    Quoted from ccotenj:

    since i'm being burnt upon my demise, i could just have her scatter some ashes in various machines... what's a little bit more dust?

    Make sure she scatters you under the arches. Seems like nobody ever cleans up there.

    #85 5 years ago

    Pinside more or less blows for EM stuff...people just don't care about it here.

    But I suppose that's a symptom of how it's going as a whole...it's difficult to literally give away EM games here, on RGP, or mrpinball for that matter.

    Yet there's still an EM crowd, and still lots of people interested in buying them. Just seems harder to reach that crowd.

    I still love 'em. Fun to play and can be a real breath of fresh air to work on after you've replaced a transistor on a driver board for the 3rd straight time. I really like working on EM games, they are much more organic and easier to work on for me than digital stuff.

    #86 5 years ago
    Quoted from Xerico:

    09. I can bring a dead EM back to life.

    I feel like Dr. Frankenstein sometimes - pop in a new fuse (it's always just a fuse), lay my hands upon a few switches, coils and relays, and everything comes back to life.

    #87 5 years ago

    I'm an avid EM player, just not a collector. We only have room for 4 games, gotta keep the ones the other people like too, not just me lol. Add to that the fact that the last one I had, I just couldn't seem to ever get it working 100%, even when I knew EXACTLY what the problem was and what needed to be done to fix it, it's just really hard to justify that space being taken up.

    Placed 1st place in C Division EM's at TPF in 2012, and 2nd place in A Division EM's at TPF this year.

    *Edit* Oh, and I can't possibly miss a chance to take a dig at Marcus, so I'll just mention that THIS TIME, I beat him on his own EM!

    #88 5 years ago
    Quoted from Xerico:

    Top Reasons Why I Consider Myself an EM Guy (Despite Rat_Tomago's objections to the contrary)
    10. 1/3 of my collection is EMs.
    09. I can bring a dead EM back to life.
    08. I can troubleshoot EM problems and resolve them.
    07. I can take a dirty EM playfield and make it clean and shiny.
    06. I can play a 2" game and roll it.
    05. I can play a 3" game and roll it.
    04. I troll CL, pinside & eBay for EM deals.
    03. I have EM projects.
    02. I am a member of the Yahoo EMPinballMachine group.
    And the #1 Reason I consider myself an EM GUY
    01. I love them.
    Marcus

    i like it... 9 out of 10 for me (except all my collection is em's )...

    i'm missing #6... rolling a 2" game is an extraordinarily rare occurence for me... i've only rolled my 4 square a couple times, and never rolled the royal guard...

    #89 5 years ago

    Im here. All but 2 of my pins are EM and I have a EM P&B and a Gun Game as well

    --Jeff

    #90 5 years ago

    Honestly, if you can regularly roll Royal Guard, you should be playing in tournaments. I've made probably 100+ attempts to roll my friend's Royal Guard and nobody...NOBODY has scored over 7k on that thing....in other words, NOT EVEN CLOSE!

    #91 5 years ago

    "Ya toja." "Me too" in Russian...

    #92 5 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    Honestly, if you can regularly roll Royal Guard, you should be playing in tournaments. I've made probably 100+ attempts to roll my friend's Royal Guard and nobody...NOBODY has scored over 7k on that thing....in other words, NOT EVEN CLOSE!

    i came close once, and i choked like a miserable dirty stinking dog on the last ball... but that's the only time... anything over 5000 is a very rare performance for me... i'm happy if i can just make the replay level once out of every 10 tries...

    and that's in WAY more than 100 attempts...

    #93 5 years ago

    Yeah, a "decent" game for me has been around the 4500 mark, and very rarely in the 5k's.

    #94 5 years ago
    Quoted from PMcGee:

    Thought we would get a more accurate accounting by asking those folks who regularly frequent the EM sub forum. If you are on Pinside and an EM guy, you go to the EM forum.

    You could always add a poll to this topic Printis and get an accurate count that way as to how many EM guys are really here.

    Ken

    #95 5 years ago
    Quoted from EM-PINMAN:

    You could always add a poll to this topic Printis and get an accurate count that way as to how many EM guys are really here.
    Ken

    I will do that. Easier than trying to tally up.

    Suggested options in poll?

    I am an EM Guy who prefers EM machines
    I am an SS / DMD Guy who prefers more modern machines
    I am an All Pinball Guy who likes it all

    #96 5 years ago

    Well, my favorite SS pins are IM, AFM, ACDC, TRON, BSD.......

    And yet now I own more em's than SS titles.

    I like fast, addictive, one more go type of games, like all those SS titles.

    But em's set up right can be all this.

    Set El Dorado at 5 degree pitch, wax, wax, wax, maybe add orange/yellow coils and boy, you have a fast, short game

    One of the fastest games I played is a 1963 Gigi ( yellow dot coils ) !

    And many of these em's are rare, desirable and beautiful

    #97 5 years ago

    70s ems here. Loved those gottliebs then and now.

    #98 5 years ago
    Quoted from PMcGee:

    Suggested options in poll?

    1) I am a EM player/owner only
    2) I am a EM/SS player/owner only
    3) I am a EM/SS/DMD/OTHER player/owner
    4) I do not like EM's at all

    Ken

    #99 5 years ago
    Quoted from PMcGee:

    I will do that. Easier than trying to tally up.
    Suggested options in poll?

    I suggest simple options.

    1. I am an EM Guy
    2. I am an EM Gal
    3. I am not an EM Guy
    4. I am not an EM Gal

    #100 5 years ago

    ALL EM's for me! Had a few solid states....sold them all! I watched kids go into my basement...play the pitch-n-bat, EM shooting game, and the 2 other pins, while the 2 solid states just sat there (F-14 and Time Machine).

    So 6 EM's set-up and two in storage that the wife doesn't know about!

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