Seems like everyone and their brother and uncle and cousin are CGC/MMR distributors or more accurately resellers. Multiple places these seem to be sitting NIB and unsold.

Am I the only one thinking these are going to be fire sold at some point?

If PPS/GCG really does announce AFMr or whatever remake at Expo in 2 months then I think many of those left holding the NIB MMrs may get more motivated real quick.

thoughts?

well.... 5 'distributors' with remakes all available and not selling

https://pinside.com/pinball/archive/medieval-madness-remake-standard/market

that is telling

On top of that I highly suggest going to check out a MMr on route before considering buying. The last time I was at Logan I played that MMr and was shocked at how poorly it is holding up. Needless to say the difference in quality compared to the original was obvious!

Just simply falling apart, played like crap, and beat up.

LOgans does a great job of maintaining so it was not the tech work. Just the lack of quality in the game. Looked aweful after too little time on route.

really? I have never seen so many distributors and their cousins advertising with NIB games. With MMr there are all the typical and real distributors combined with all these pop up collector become distributors. I see 15 different places to go buy MMr with games in stock right now.

that is ALOT of MMr just sitting around at a super high price. With the $500 each of these distros is attempting to make (at minimum) I have to assume some of the fly by night ones are going to lidudate at some point when they cant sell and then the bigger distributors are going to need to do the same if they want to sell.

Seems to me like someone did a great job of selling people on becoming distributors.

sorry, not even close! I have seen and played plenty of them and been under the hood. remakes are so different that it is obvious based on how they dont hold up like the originals did.

Ill take pics the next time I am at logans.

concern is the sheer number of new "distributors". Lots of new faces that are buying and reselling undwer the distributor title.

That means lots of games and lots of inventory spread out among more places.
That means more risk for the consumer (see Twisted Pins)

Just and observation and comment that every tom dick and harry seems to have stock of MMr and I dont see much demand, esp with the added risk of buying through a new reseller.

If anything I am already seeing lots of HUO and lightly used examples up for sale.

so it is just virtual stock that these companies have?

Good to hear that it is not physical inventory. I sure would not want to be sitting on 50k of MMrs in the next few months.

thanks

A big part of my reason for bringing the topic up. Lots of new people in the game. Lots of stock. From what I have seen, lots of quality issues. All these things bring potential risk for all involved.

given the quality issues I have seen with MMr I am only interested in originals

curious. What is your affiliation? You are obviously extremely defensive of my observations concerning MMr.

To say that there are no issues is pretty silly. Anyone remotely paying attention knows about the pf issues and insert backlighting problems. Anyone that has played a game after some time on it knows it is quite different from the original.

nice to hear that Joe. From the ones I have seen on route they dont seem to be holding up very well.

We had considered one for route till I spent more time on the remake.

there were a few more ads just the other day that seem to now be gone. There are also a few authorized distributors that really have no history prior to MMR. If anyone is looking to buy they should be looking to people like Joe whom has a long history of taking care of people!

gotta love when they resort to personal attacks.

thanks for the info Joe!

I dont really care at all.

Just an observation.

there are:

1. LOTS of new distributors doing the MMr thing that have not been pinball distributors in the past
2. LOTS of stock of MMr currently out there and readily available from both the regular guys and these new guys (sounds like some is virtual stock and some of hard stock on hand)
3. Already issues with some of the previously approved PPS distributors >> see twisted pins debacle
4. Issues with MMr (poor insert registration/saturation) and from what I have personally seen, games not holding up over time
5. Lots of new games coming out in the next few months and lots of lightly used MMr available already, plus the likely announcement of the next remake very soon?

I think all these things contribute to the likelyhood that we are going to be seeing large price reductions on NIB MMr

I do understand that especially with the back alley re-sellers they are going to be defensive over this observation. I also understand that some MMr owners will be defensive.

I see the market has shifted on MMr and supply seems to have gone up with demand going down.

(Contents moderated). I owned a MM back inthe day and found it to be lackluster and boring. If looking for a fan layout them afm is the much better game, theme, and comedy.
(Contents moderated) Stick around for a while and get some experience tearing into machines and then you may be able to develop an opinion on what deems quality; mmr is far from the quality in build of the original.
Used mmr are all over the place. A few in the market here. A few on ebay. Quite a few on regional clists. Really are lots of them and that is not even debatable, just take 5 min and look. Demand has definately gone way down in the past few months when it used to outstrip supply.