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How many machines do i need?


By Prodoshi

56 days ago



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    #1 56 days ago

    Hi, i played my Ghostbusters Pro now for 5 months and its an aweosome game.
    But recently it started to get boring quite fast.
    I also have a second pin from Williams "Fire" which is not nearly as cool, and its getting dusty.

    I want to get a Jurassic Park Premium, but i started to think about how long it will catch my attention
    and if i better should buy 2 cheaper Stern pins for the money. The thing is that JP really appeals to me.

    I'm curios in your how you manage your pin collection to keep the hobby and machines interesting.
    How much do i need, where will all this lead to?

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    #2 56 days ago

    as many as you can fit in your home.

    #3 56 days ago

    12 pins was my original max crazy person limit.

    Now i have 20. Feels right

    #4 56 days ago

    How large is your home less the refrigerator?

    #5 56 days ago

    More then 1 less then me lol.

    17
    #6 56 days ago

    You need at least one more than you think you can afford, have room for, or can justify.

    LTG : )

    #7 56 days ago

    How many machines
    do I "need"?
    I don't understand the question...

    #8 56 days ago

    The answer is “one more.”

    #9 56 days ago
    Quoted from shirkle:

    The answer is “one more.”

    The answer is always 1 more

    #10 56 days ago

    For me a JJPPOTC and an Alien LE are all you need as a collection. Low in number but high in quality. These two pins offer all Pinball can offer in just 2 games.

    #11 56 days ago

    Never enough

    #12 56 days ago

    Buy themes that keep you interested.

    #13 56 days ago

    When you hit your limit you'll feel it. Mine is nine.

    #14 56 days ago

    One more than you have.

    #15 56 days ago
    Quoted from Maurice:

    For me a JJPPOTC and an Alien LE are all you need as a collection. Low in number but high in quality. These two pins offer all Pinball can offer in just 2 games.

    Not even close. There is so much pinball has to offer that is not in those games. Those are some new modern games and do not encompass so much that older pinball has to offer.

    If you are happy with that then that is all you personally need and I agree that is all you need. That is not what you said though.

    #16 56 days ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    I'm curios in your how you manage your pin collection to keep the hobby and machines interesting.
    How much do i need, where will all this lead to?

    I have 17 games. I have about 5-6 of them that are not keepers. I use those spots to keep the lineup fresh each year. The others most likely will never leave.

    #17 56 days ago

    It really all boils down to time, space and money and where you are with your collection. Early on it was all about figuring out which games I liked enough to keep. My criteria - did I think a game was fun, complemented others and contributed to a good representation of games from different eras. Then it was about how much space I wanted to dedicate to pinball. Then mixing the two.

    I have 5 EM favorites in one room and 15 SS games in another with no available space. At this point my collection has all family favorites, so to bring in a new game requires a tough choice deciding which leaves. I’ve done that a couple times now and it’s been a harder choice each time. It will be slightly easier going forward because I’ve pretty much decided there aren’t games I want more than ones currently in my collection. So change is only likely if there is a yet unannounced game that makes a hard choice necessary or someone makes me an offer I’d be silly to turn down.

    #18 56 days ago

    My real answer is as many as you can comfortably keep working without it starting to feel like more work than fun.

    #19 56 days ago
    Quoted from grantopia:

    My real answer is as many as you can comfortably keep working without it starting to feel like more work than fun.

    I agree, I try to make sure I get to play them more than working on them. Bullet proofing them before puting into the gameroom is very important to keep your sanity.
    -Mike

    #20 56 days ago
    Quoted from Grizlyrig:

    I agree, I try to make sure I get to play them more than working on them. Bullet proofing them before puting into the gameroom is very important to keep your sanity.
    -Mike

    Totally! I like project games and I enjoy working on them but when it feels like there is always something that needs fixed it can get frustrating.

    #21 56 days ago

    Wow hard question.

    I think minimum, 5 sweet spot 8-12.
    Then rotate them out as you want a change.

    In a perfect world...all of them!!

    #22 56 days ago

    Same equation I use for motorcycles

    N+1

    N=current amount

    Also an equation you might need to use is

    D-1

    D=Divorce

    #23 56 days ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    Hi, i played my Ghostbusters Pro now for 5 months and its an aweosome game.
    But recently it started to get boring quite fast.
    I also have a second pin from Williams "Fire" which is not nearly as cool, and its getting dusty.
    I want to get a Jurassic Park Premium, but i started to think about how long it will catch my attention
    and if i better should buy 2 cheaper Stern pins for the money. The thing is that JP really appeals to me.
    I'm curios in your how you manage your pin collection to keep the hobby and machines interesting.
    How much do i need, where will all this lead to?

    the answer is how many can you fit. It's best to draw out your house on graph paper. do 1 sq ft per square. A typical machine will take 2 1/2 squares wide by 4.4 squares long. You will want 2 squares in front of the machine to be able to get the glass off. Plot out your floor plan to maximize the amount of games you can get in a given floorplan.

    I just realized you are out of the country. I do not know how this would translate to metric.

    #24 56 days ago
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    #25 56 days ago

    Have 35 in the collection now and is a bit overwhelming at times......but I'm still looking for more lol.

    #26 56 days ago

    n = number of games you have
    k = amount of room you have
    N = number of games you want
    P = amount of money you can scrape together by selling everything you own including the wife.

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    #27 56 days ago

    More

    #28 56 days ago

    It depends on your priorities in life. I once had over 50. Now I am comfortable with about a dozen. The key is variety. One day you might want to play a deep game, the next a simple one.

    #29 56 days ago
    Quoted from FrankJ:

    It depends on your priorities in life. I once had over 50. Now I am comfortable with about a dozen. The key is variety. One day you might want to play a deep game, the next a simple one.

    major variety is the key to things not getting old. Also makes you a well rounded player. Having DMD, EM, early SS all in the mix, really changes things up.

    #30 56 days ago

    Easy answer you don't need any but keep as many around as make you happy

    #31 55 days ago

    To be on the safe side I would just get one of each. If you have the money, get two of each so you have extra parts.

    #32 55 days ago

    Once you get your first machine you’ll be eyeing on another one and another one and another one and another o...Haha! I can keep going on and on

    #33 55 days ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    Hi, i played my Ghostbusters Pro now for 5 months and its an aweosome game.
    But recently it started to get boring quite fast.
    I also have a second pin from Williams "Fire" which is not nearly as cool, and its getting dusty.
    I want to get a Jurassic Park Premium, but i started to think about how long it will catch my attention
    and if i better should buy 2 cheaper Stern pins for the money. The thing is that JP really appeals to me.
    I'm curios in your how you manage your pin collection to keep the hobby and machines interesting.
    How much do i need, where will all this lead to?

    After decades as a pinhead, and now a recovering addict, I can confidently say that the formula is as follows:

    Ideal collection = current collection + 1

    I realized that when I had like 10-12 premium pins I had restored (back when a nice MM could be had for $4k) and was out of room, and realized I still wanted more. I had a choice. I could become "that guy" with a storage unit or units full of pins still buying and restoring more, OR I could downsize to 1-2 and make a hard rule that if one comes in, one has to go, which is what I went with.

    #34 55 days ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    Hi, i played my Ghostbusters Pro now for 5 months and its an aweosome game.
    But recently it started to get boring quite fast.
    I also have a second pin from Williams "Fire" which is not nearly as cool, and its getting dusty.
    I want to get a Jurassic Park Premium, but i started to think about how long it will catch my attention
    and if i better should buy 2 cheaper Stern pins for the money. The thing is that JP really appeals to me.
    I'm curios in your how you manage your pin collection to keep the hobby and machines interesting.
    How much do i need, where will all this lead to?

    I took my time to build my collection. I figured out what pinball aspects, styles, and themes I liked best. I then proceeded to get pins from different makers, different eras, and with varying styles. It keeps it super fresh and very enjoyable.

    Things to consider:

    -Number of flippers
    -Widebody or regular
    -Multi ball styles and quantity, or none at all
    -Different eras
    -Favorite styles; ramps, bash toys, pop bumpers, modes, etc.
    -fast and slow play times

    If you have unlimited room and money, get as many as possible. If not, keep your collection varied.

    #35 55 days ago

    You can always get rid of your bed and sleep under the machines that now fit in that space. Nice and cozy, like a fort.

    #36 55 days ago

    Haha you guys... so to sum it up: always +1, veriety, and themes.
    I have room for 3-4 pins. Since I'm alone with my pins and the internet,
    I have to ask those questions. The next Pinball museum nearby just closed
    and i do not know any pinheads. Somehow I'm the onlyone who loves pinball,
    family and friends got bored really quick... not even wanted to practice post
    passes or any of the rules. If I could excite them, maybe I would go deeper
    into the hobby.

    So you would recommend buying 2 older sterns instead of one new JP premium,
    because +1 weights then the theme? Also prices here are more then in the US
    (9300$ for JP premium) and I'm not rich.

    #37 55 days ago

    As a JP2 Premium owner it would be tough to justify replacing it with two lesser games. The depth of the modern games is really quite remarkable - JP2 included.

    I’m definitely in the ‘quality not quantity’ camp. Of course, space plays a big part in that as well.

    My $0.02

    #38 55 days ago

    How much space do I need?

    ...that's what you should asking!

    #39 55 days ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    Haha you guys... so to sum it up: always +1, veriety, and themes.
    I have room for 3-4 pins. Since I'm alone with my pins and the internet,
    I have to ask those questions. The next Pinball museum nearby just closed
    and i do not know any pinheads. Somehow I'm the onlyone who loves pinball,
    family and friends got bored really quick... not even wanted to practice post
    passes or any of the rules. If I could excite them, maybe I would go deeper
    into the hobby.
    So you would recommend buying 2 older sterns instead of one new JP premium,
    because +1 weights then the theme? Also prices here are more then in the US
    (9300$ for JP premium) and I'm not rich.

    One good game is better than 2 not so good games.

    Good games are expensive. Everywhere around the world.

    #40 55 days ago

    Thats nice to hear since theme and quality is also very important for me.
    I tried alot of machines which i didnt like because of the theme.

    But on the other hand, for about 10.000 $ I'm sure i could get 2 good HUO pins.
    Star Trek Pro would be one of those... but finding used machines here is also a pain,
    so i guess it will be the JP Premium.

    I'm also curious in another aspect regarding "keep pinball and pins interesting".
    What I found on this forum and papa.org helped alot:

    -Change flipper rubbers to a softer or harder type
    -Widen or tighten the outlanes
    -Tighten or loosen the tilt
    -Change the slingshot sensitivity
    -Reduce or raise the game’s pitch
    -Clean and wax a dirty game
    -Adjust the level slightly
    -Read in the Forums and watch streams

    so focusing on practicing skills and not the game opens up a whole new world.
    I feel like i need a duty to keep it interesting, what about you?

    #41 55 days ago
    Quoted from jfh:

    It really all boils down to time, space and money and where you are with your collection. Early on it was all about figuring out which games I liked enough to keep. My criteria - did I think a game was fun, complemented others and contributed to a good representation of games from different eras. Then it was about how much space I wanted to dedicate to pinball. Then mixing the two.
    I have 5 EM favorites in one room and 15 SS games in another with no available space. At this point my collection has all family favorites, so to bring in a new game requires a tough choice deciding which leaves. I’ve done that a couple times now and it’s been a harder choice each time. It will be slightly easier going forward because I’ve pretty much decided there aren’t games I want more than ones currently in my collection. So change is only likely if there is a yet unannounced game that makes a hard choice necessary or someone makes me an offer I’d be silly to turn down.

    Time for an extension

    #42 55 days ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    Thats nice to hear since theme and quality is also very important for me.
    I tried alot of machines which i didnt like because of the theme.
    But on the other hand, for about 10.000 $ I'm sure i could get 2 good HUO pins.
    Star Trek Pro would be one of those... but finding used machines here is also a pain,
    so i guess it will be the JP Premium.
    I'm also curious in another aspect regarding "keep pinball and pins interesting".
    What I found on this forum and papa.org helped alot:
    -Change flipper rubbers to a softer or harder type
    -Widen or tighten the outlanes
    -Tighten or loosen the tilt
    -Change the slingshot sensitivity
    -Reduce or raise the game’s pitch
    -Clean and wax a dirty game
    -Adjust the level slightly
    -Read in the Forums and watch streams
    so focusing on practicing skills and not the game opens up a whole new world.
    I feel like i need a duty to keep it interesting, what about you?

    Quality is better than quantity, but having a variety in a small collection is a " must-have."
    Just because they cost more or are newer doesn't mean you will like them better.

    I feel that for 9300-10000, you could get 3 very good pins. I would recommend getting system 11 games, early ball and/or stern ss, and maybe a nice dmd game. You could get a bally fathom, Williams pinbot, and The Shadow and have money left over.

    #43 55 days ago

    I'm at 19 right now. I'll let you know as soon as I figure it out.

    #44 55 days ago

    Factoid: The more you own the more that require fixing = money and aggravation.
    Variety is the spice of life - the Mormons proved this a long time ago (massive laughter)
    Your income and space determines everything.

    #45 55 days ago
    Quoted from CLEllison:

    Factoid: The more you own the more that require fixing = money and aggravation.

    When buying pins for home. Think about it. Do you like playing more ? Fixing more ? Find the balance that provides you with what you like the most.

    A huge collection is fun until time goes by and you realize you are running an arcade without the income.

    LTG : )

    #46 55 days ago

    I vote quality over quantity. Nothing worse than a large collection with games that have issues. Also, I think it’s easier to burn out of the hobby with more than you can handle. My goal is now 1 pin a year for the next few years, but that largely has to do with my wife and I trying to start a family. I don’t know if I would feel the same without the prospect of kids, but have as many as you can enjoy!

    #47 55 days ago

    What you really need: Get more of your friends and neighbors into the hobby. Get more games in the area. Swap games *and* have local events (casual or tournament, whatever's fun). Help spread the cost *and* increase local variety. Besides, the social side of this can be fun!

    Now, as to how many you need for home, where you can play in pajamas, ... everyone else has this covered. "One more than you (have) or (have space for)".

    #48 55 days ago
    Quoted from Prodoshi:

    If I could excite them, maybe I would go deeper
    into the hobby.

    Simple, are you collecting for them or you, I'm really the only one in my household who plays my pins and I do so 3-5 days a week. My wife will occasionally come down and play but rarely unless some of our friends come over.

    #49 55 days ago

    We just hit 20, and I've "almost" got them all working. We're holding off for a little while to see if we can keep this many going. . Our game room is a former bank lobby in an 1887 stone and brick building. Stop by sometime!

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    #50 55 days ago

    The limit does not exist.

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