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How I recreate plastics

By JeffHecht

10 years ago


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#1 10 years ago

I recently was asked how I recreate broken, faded, or otherwise less than desirable plastics. I should state that I only reproduce plastics for myself and don't sell or redistribute them.

I start out with good quality scans of the original plastics at 300 dpi.

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I then bring the scanned image into Photoshop and clean the image a bit. From this point forward I spend most of my time using the Pen tool to create the vector artwork. Learn how to use it. The Pen tool is your friend. There are many good tutorial videos and articles on the internet that show how to use it. Of course familiarity with Photoshop is a plus.

Using the Pen tool, I start out by creating outlines of the plastics and removing anything from the image outside of the plastics themselves. This includes removing anything between the printed artwork and the edges of the plastic.

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I then select all of the black areas in the plastics using Select->Color Range, and convert that to a working path and then rename and save that path as "black". Then, using the Pen tool, I fix all of the areas that need adjustment (this can be time consuming) and finally create a new layer and fill the path with black. Here you can see the black shown with the plastic outlines.

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Following this, I use (you guessed it) the Pen tool to create a path for the different colors. In areas where the color meets a black edge, you can be sloppy and let the red edges bleed into the black areas since the black layer will always be on top of any color layers. It's a simple matter of selecting the path in the dialog and filling that path with the correct color.

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I continue this process for each of the colors, creating new layers as i go for each color.

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After getting all of the color layers completed, using the Pen tool, I create paths for where the holes will be drilled.

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This file could then be used to create silk screens, or with a vinyl printer (my method... it's way cheaper and looks quite nice). When the vinyl image has been applied to PETG, I use a scroll saw with a very fine blade to cut out the plastics and a drill press to drill the holes.

In the end, I have a very new set of looking plastics that look much better than the old originals. This is especially handy where reproductions are not available

Jeff

#4 10 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

So are you printing onto white vinyl and trimming to the right size?

Yes. The printing company I use uses the paths I create for the edges of the white color for where the plotter cuts the vinyl. They look really nice... I'll be posting a picture of finished product in the High Hand machine soon.

Jeff

#7 10 years ago

Here is a shot of the plastics installed in the High Hand machine.

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Jeff

#8 10 years ago
Quoted from LynxOne:

Edit: Where do you find the scans?

I scan them myself using the original plastics. If you don't have the originals, you would have to have someone scan them for you (300 dpi), or see if you could borrow a set to scan.

Jeff

#11 10 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Nice, bet that felt good.
Is the vinyl self adhesive or are you using some kind of glue?

The print shop I use does it for me, so I really don't know. I think they really enjoy it when I walk into their shop. They have done many prints for me for various restorations, including an entire playfield (look for my Strikes and Spares restoration thread). The graphic designer that I typically work with to do the prints thinks it's cool to be working on something other than making signs.

Jeff

#19 10 years ago
Quoted from Miguel351:

Nice work, Jeff. You should let people know how long it takes just to redraw the artwork. It might surprise some folks.
I'm curious as to why you use Photoshop for all the redrawing, though. I do all my redrawing in Illustrator. Sure, I scan the image then drop it into PS to clean it up, but then I drop it into Illustrator to do all the vector work. Same pen tool, I guess, I just feel like there are more options in Illustrator. I could be wrong, though.

I use Photoshop because that's what I have. When it comes down to opening up my wallet for more software or more pinball stuff, I usually opt for the pinball stuff. I have no doubt that Illustrator would be the tool of choice. Perhaps someday when I get tired of working around things in Photoshop, I'll spring for it.

Quoted from Pafasa:

You did a wonderful job. would you consider doing this for other pinsiders if you were provided with a good scan?

Thanks for the kudos. It's quite rewarding. I haven't really considered doing work outside of things for myself, but I might consider it depending upon how busy I am.

Jeff

#20 10 years ago
Quoted from Pafasa:

How did you get the whites done? Is it just part of the print? This takes a special printer to be able to print white on clear vinyl.

The printing company I use has the capability to print exactly what I want (white, clear, colors, etc.) based on the artwork I provide them. I don't know the exact answer to your question, other than to say I get what I want from them

Jeff

#22 10 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

Are you just using a local shop? What kind of work do they advertise themselves as doing? I think finding the printer is probably going to be the trickiest part for people who are already comfortable doing the graphics.
BTW - I'd use Illustrator too, just because I'm more comfortable with the vector tools in it vs Photoshop's, but nothing wrong with your method if that's what you have.

Yep... local shop that I have established a good reputation with. They advertise themselves as a full service sign shop (from small stuff to big bucket truck things). If you are interested in having them do work for you, PM me and I'll get you their contact information.

Jeff

#23 10 years ago

Here are a few up close images of the slingshot plastics for a better look at the quality.

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#26 10 years ago
Quoted from FirebrandX:

So if I understand this correctly, you bring the printing shop a sheet of PETG plastic and have them apply their own vinyl sticker print of your artwork to the plastic, and then you take the sheet home and cut out the pieces yourself, right?

Yep... that's pretty much it. They have been kind enough to source the PETG for me, but other than that, you are correct.

Jeff

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#40 10 years ago
Quoted from IntoPinball:

Nice job on the High Hand plastics! Although... Next time, you should ask around for scans as there are many pinsiders willing to help. My Capt. Card plastics are near perfect and could have saved you some work.
- jeff

Very good point! I'll keep that in mind next time. The pinside crowd has been very nice and is a helpful bunch of folks with a common interest keeping this wonderful activity alive.

Jeff

#50 10 years ago
Quoted from MrSanRamon:

The file gets quite large @ 600 dpi, and the added dots may not be much higher resolution after printing.
Best to try both and see if there is a difference after printing.
Robert

Agreed. I have tried 600 dpi in the past and the files just get too big. 300 dpi works quite well for me.

Jeff

#62 10 years ago
Quoted from boilerman:

I wish someone would make a primer on the process. I mess with gimp and can do a few things but what you have done(OP) would be great to learn

I have used Gimp in the past as well, and while a great program (especially for free), I find that I prefer working in Photoshop (CS4). The print shop that I use also requires either Photoshop or Illustrator files. They use the paths embedded in the file created by the Pen tool to "cut out" the clear areas (i.e. between the artwork and the edges of the plastic, other clear areas on plastics like where the captive balls are on Embyon, etc. ).

Once I get the Time Warp backglass done that I'm working on, I can put together a more in-depth tutorial on recreating plastics. For those interested, you can see progress on the backglass here in a thread I started on restoring this Williams classic: http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/time-warp-restoration

Jeff

#64 10 years ago
Quoted from RDM:

That's kind of what I figured. So the consensus seems to be that it's doable if there are no real other options, it just means more work in pre-production in order to try and fix the natural distortion applied by the camera lens. Thanks, good to know.
I wonder if this same methodology could be used to digitize the playfield too? Obviously not for a pro-grade restoration, but for a player quality machine, it might be a cost effective way to try and correct a previous "repair" attempt by someone who was no artist.
I might take some pictures and post in a separate thread, don't want to hijack this one. Thanks for the info gents.

I have done that to recreate areas on the playfield of my Embryon machine (for making water slide decals of high traffic areas). It's a bit more tedious, but certainly doable.

For a complete PF reproduction, I scanned an entire Strikes and Spares playfield and recreated the artwork in my computer and had a new vinyl print laid down on the old playfield (with the artwork sanded off and 2 coats of base clear coat). You can see the result here: http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/strikes-and-spares-restoration

Jeff

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