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How do I force a mid 90's Williams into 25 cent play?


By CadillacMusic

6 years ago



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    #1 6 years ago

    Hey all. We've got several machines from '92 to about '94 we'd love to put on the route on quarter play. No one wants to pay 50 cents to play Popeye, after all. The problem is that Williams seems to have gone crazy at this time period, and cut out the ability for games to be on 25 cent play. There is no option in pricing for it, you cannot go to custom pricing on a domestic rom, and it doesn't seem to care what value you set the custom coin door to, it assumes it's 25 cents a pulse. My boss has nixed either export ROMs or wiring the coin switches to the "escape" button.

    #2 6 years ago

    You want the "Coin Doubler" board from twobits.com

    http://www.twobits.com/parts/

    Scroll down all the way to the bottom of the page and you'll see it. It's only $25 and it can be moved from machine to machine if desired. It just plugs in. One trip of the coin switch sends out two pulses thus producing 25 cent play.

    #3 6 years ago

    Thanks. We'll probably get some of those. Wish I didn't have to wait.

    #4 6 years ago
    Quoted from KenLayton:

    You want the "Coin Doubler" board from twobits.com
    http://www.twobits.com/parts/
    Scroll down all the way to the bottom of the page and you'll see it. It's only $25 and it can be moved from machine to machine if desired. It just plugs in. One trip of the coin switch sends out two pulses thus producing 25 cent play.

    No shit. I had no idea this existed and I actually had this problem like 6 months ago. Thanks for this!

    #5 6 years ago

    Yeah, what's up with that little run of Williams games? Almost all of them can be set to 4/$100, but there's a random handful that are utterly missing that option in the ROM. IIRC IJ is one, and I know there are a few more (sounds like Popeye) but they don't seem to be in any logical grouping, chronologically speaking.

    #6 6 years ago

    It's happened with Corvette and WCS, too. I just stuck export ROMs in them. I think my mistake was asking my boss what he wanted to do, instead of just burning the ROMs and sticking them in there. To be fair, it does make problems. The girl in Corvette speaks French now, traslated to English in text at the bottom.

    #8 6 years ago

    Is that the Popeye you had at the Ohio Pinball Show? I played it about 3-4 times. It played great! Would have talked to you more about it if I wasn't in the process of moving. First time playing it and really enjoyed it. Where are you looking at putting it on location at? I'll come break it in!

    #9 6 years ago

    I'm afraid that Popeye sold pretty quickly at the show. This is another one, not quite as nice, but hardly horrible. It'll be in the Barcade opening on Coventry Rd, joined by a TAF, DW, RFM, W?D, DM, Slugfest, and a Mario Andretti. But it looks like play on those will have to be 50-75-100.

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    #10 1 year ago

    Hi all, bringing this back alive as we have the exact same issue with WMS IJ... Trying to set the price to $0.25 for a special event but as noted the latest L-7 ROM does not support it.

    Not like we could get the "coin doubler" board on time (plus it seems out of stock), so is there any other solution out there? soren any magic code update from you maybe?

    #11 1 year ago

    This is one of the more headshaking decisions I've seen. Why not have the option open for custom pricing. And what about the bonus setting. I don't get it.

    Anyway. If you set the game to this Export DIP setting, the four leftmost DIPs "on - off - on - off", the game allows for custom pricing. While having English language, dollar currency and the comma-seperator. Assume the USA adjustment presets too.

    #12 1 year ago

    cool, i'll try that out, thanks Soren!

    #13 1 year ago
    Quoted from soren:

    This is one of the more headshaking decisions I've seen. Why not have the option open for custom pricing.

    The manufacturers were trying to make pricing at 50¢ and not have operators defeat it and go lower, thus triggering a pricing war. Which in turn would kill operators and negatively effect the distributor/manufacturer people next.

    LTG : )

    #14 1 year ago

    Oh, I see.

    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    The manufacturers were trying to make pricing at 50¢ and not have operators defeat it and go lower, thus triggering a pricing war. Which in turn would kill operators and negatively effect the distributor/manufacturer people next.
    LTG : )

    It's neither the manufactures job nor responsibility to force pricing on operators. Talk about arrogant hubris.

    #16 1 year ago
    Quoted from soren:

    This is one of the more headshaking decisions I've seen. Why not have the option open for custom pricing. And what about the bonus setting. I don't get it.
    Anyway. If you set the game to this Export DIP setting, the four leftmost DIPs "on - off - on - off", the game allows for custom pricing. While having English language, dollar currency and the comma-seperator. Assume the USA adjustment presets too.

    that worked fine, thanks Soren!

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