KISS (LE)
Stern, 2015
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Just some food for thought. A lot of people seem to be jumping the gun and taking a risk without playing it first? Might be a bad game considering how fast they pumped it out. I certainly will wait for a like new used one to pop up if I was interested. There will be a lot of them I think.
It's been under design for a year, what do you I mean "how fast they pumped it out". The rushed the release a little do to WWE flop, but the only thing that wasn't complete was the artwork, and that is always the final step in design process.
I'm still annoyed they offer games for pre order before a video of game play. Sorry but I'm not paying $8000 for a pin without seeing it in action first.
And by the time the video is up, the LE will probably be sold out (If I wanted an LE)
Quoted from Doostur:I'm still annoyed they offer games for pre order before a video of game play. Sorry but I'm not paying $8000 for a pin without seeing it in action first.
And by the time the video is up, the LE will probably be sold out (If I wanted an LE)
Um, didn't you mean "without PLAYING it first"?
Quoted from JoeGrenuk:Um, didn't you mean "without PLAYING it first"?
That would be ideal. But I'd be satisfied with a video.
Quoted from Doostur:I'm still annoyed they offer games for pre order before a video of game play. Sorry but I'm not paying $8000 for a pin without seeing it in action first.
100% agree. I'm all over this game, but want to at least see it in action before I place an order.
Quoted from Doostur:And by the time the video is up, the LE will probably be sold out (If I wanted an LE)
I think they already are ! if not, then there are only a few remaining for sure!
I did not take the op as bashing the game, personally I cannot understand buying a game or putting down a deposit without seeing it and playing it first.. He never said it was a bad game, just said it might be a bad game, I was a little disappointed in the walking dead, and thought the Star Trek le was amazing, I agree, that until I had a chance to really try it, putting that much money into a game you have never played is a big risk, sure you could sell it used, but could end up taking a big hit
I am not seeing anything about the layout that would make a bad game
time spent programing is the main difference between a good game and a great one
The sales on this title are going to be high, Stern will give the programmers more time to finish the job
I don't see it as any more dramatic than the Met launch. LEs were gone in a day, and even when the code was known to be bad there was never really a flood of availability. LE owners aren't panicking about the cash they have tied up in a machine.
Quoted from Calibur2:Just some food for thought. A lot of people seem to be jumping the gun and taking a risk without playing it first? Might be a bad game considering how fast they pumped it out. I certainly will wait for a like new used one to pop up if I was interested. There will be a lot of them I think.
Nothing unusual about that, happens with a lot of games. How long you been on Pinside? 
I'm not buying this machine, but I have faith in the machine. Borg has been on a roll with his machines.
Very hard to imagine that this won't be good.
Only 2 reasons to pre order.
1. You just got to have that theme
2. You have so much cash it does not mather if you lose a few k.
The latter one, and in the pinballworld they are with just enough, keeps the shitty Stern coding policy alive.
Quoted from The_Gorilla:I already want to sell mine and I haven't even decided to buy one yet.
Your always flipping a game after a couple months of buying it new. That's how I got your Refinery Met Pro.
"How big the flood of kiss's for sale after realizing its a bad game?"
You may wish to edit a provocative thread title like this one... Do have any idea if it will turn good or bad? I have zero idea.
"after realizing it does not meet your expectations" would be more neutral.
A lot of good points. I feel like this is the biggest hype for a game in a while. There is a lot of high expectations to fulfill. Time will tell. I personally am not a fan of Kiss, but if it's a good playing game, then good for Stern and everybody who is buying one.
Quoted from jlm33:You may wish to edit a provocative thread title like this one... Do have any idea if it will turn good or bad? I have zero idea.
"after realizing it does not meet your expectations" would be more neutral.
The OP was trying to be provocative.
He does not like KISS and thus was trying to get a fire started.
I'm not a fan of Metalica and I still think it's an incredible game. Try it before you write it off. Gameplay > theme.
Huh that Mario game looks like it would be fun, not sure how long though as it looks like just a bunch of angled shots to a ramp or a hole mixed with a slot machine. I wonder if the other with the similar setup is better or worse.
Quoted from Calibur2:I just really think that molded gene simmons head on the playfield might be the ugliest thing ever created.
Lol, that's my favorite part and overall I really like the looks of the pin.
have you seen the face on acdc pro playfield?
Quoted from Calibur2:I just really think that molded gene simmons head on the playfield might be the ugliest thing ever created.
Quoted from Ed209:...Gameplay > theme.
Not for me, if theme and gameplay don't come together equally, I'm not interested in buying it. I'll drop quarters in a game that I'm not a fan of the theme, but would not own it.
Quoted from Calibur2:Just some food for thought. A lot of people seem to be jumping the gun and taking a risk without playing it first? Might be a bad game considering how fast they pumped it out. I certainly will wait for a like new used one to pop up if I was interested. There will be a lot of them I think.
If the game is bad, why would you want a used one? Does not compute.
wonder why it has no DMD? I wanna see it in action first. it might end
up being boring as the first one. it does look a little cheesy. maybe the only thing making
it awesome is the set list of music. I was expecting
more from stern. not a repeat of the Bally machine. just my opinion.. what is the
CODE used for? i keep seeing posts about CODES
for stern machines. thanks
Quoted from silver_spinner:have you seen the face on acdc pro playfield?
Yeh Angus is not the most beautiful man in the world but his guitar playing sure is pretty.
Can't wait to play the Kiss. It's gonna have ten times more stuff going on than the old one pretty though it is.. especially this one...
Quoted from gregh43:what is the
CODE used for?
The ruleset generally. Also used to describe the code driving lightshow and effects.
Quoted from gregh43:wonder why it has no DMD?
...but it does.
Quoted from silver_spinner:have you seen the face on acdc pro playfield?
I bought the Premium primarily because I didn't want that face staring at me the whole time. 
The walking dead theme is way more popular than Kiss is, was, or ever will be. Theme means nothing without it being a good game. If you disagree with th fact that walking dead has a bigger fan base, has made more money, well....dad....look at the numbers.
Quoted from Msch:The Walking Dead theme is way more popular than Kiss is, was, or ever will be. Theme means nothing without it being a good game. If you disagree with th fact that Walking Dead has a bigger fan base, has made more money, well....dad....look at the numbers.
You're comparing something at the height of its popularity to popularity over the long haul.
I'm not even a Kiss fan, but I think in 5 years Walking Dead will be pretty much forgotten. How many times can they run through the "find a safe place, see it burned by bad people" thing before everyone is tired of it? Just like CSI and 24, it will be relegated to the odd staleness of canceled TV show pins. Its a double whammy if the game stinks. I've seen the complaints, but haven't played it to know.
Kiss has been around forever. They might not be at the pinnacle of their popularity now, but they stayed popular enough to keep going. The Kiss pin *looks* killer, right up there with the best Stern has ever done.
Quoted from TOK:You're comparing something at the height of its popularity to popularity over the long haul.
I'm not even a Kiss fan, but I think in 5 years Walking Dead will be pretty much forgotten. How many times can they run through the "find a safe place, see it burned by bad people" thing before everyone is tired of it? Just like CSI and 24, it will be relegated to the odd staleness of canceled TV show pins. Its a double whammy if the game stinks. I've seen the complaints, but haven't played it to know.
Kiss has been around forever. They might not be at the pinnacle of their popularity now, but they stayed popular enough to keep going. The Kiss pin *looks* killer, right up there with the best Stern has ever done.
I know a bunch of people that have heard of the walking dead, but have never watched it. Everyone I know knows Kiss from their over 40 years of music. Kind of hard to compare the 2 if you ask me.
Besides, Kiss music wins big over a redneck that has no link to the show doing call-outs- all day long.
Quoted from TOK:You're comparing something at the height of its popularity to popularity over the long haul.
I'm not even a Kiss fan, but I think in 5 years Walking Dead will be pretty much forgotten. How many times can they run through the "find a safe place, see it burned by bad people" thing before everyone is tired of it? Just like CSI and 24, it will be relegated to the odd staleness of canceled TV show pins. Its a double whammy if the game stinks. I've seen the complaints, but haven't played it to know.
Kiss has been around forever. They might not be at the pinnacle of their popularity now, but they stayed popular enough to keep going. The Kiss pin *looks* killer, right up there with the best Stern has ever done.
TOK is right. Walking Dead is hot NOW but nobody will care in a year. It's like LOST. Captures our attention but then we want nothing to do with it once it's over. Music doesn't get stale like that. Not classic rock that is.
Quoted from Msch:The Walking Dead theme is way more popular than Kiss is, was, or ever will be. Theme means nothing without it being a good game. If you disagree with th fact that Walking Dead has a bigger fan base, has made more money, well....dad....look at the numbers.
Sure, how about you provide those numbers so we can look at 'em. Say, gross yearly income earned by both entities since 1970?
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