This stuff?

https://www.amazon.com/Plexus-Plastic-Cleaner-Protectant-13-Ounce/dp/B00092CKN4

That's not wax. That's a cleaner/polish of some sort, and that type of cleaner is abrasive.

Additionally, according to the safety sheet, it contains petroleum distillates, isobutate, and propane.

http://www.plexusplasticcleaner.com/pdf/plexus-safety-data-sheet.pdf

Petroleum distillates will cloud plastics, and isobutane can be used as a solvent.

Combination products like this are more harmful than helpful.

It also looks like it contains a bit of silicon, which contains very little long term protection. A couple games, and it's gone. Plus it's responsible for fish eye on playfields.

So basically, it's pretty close to pledge. Pledge would be cheaper and do pretty much the same thing.

[edit]: Yep, it's basically pledge. https://www.google.com/search?q=pledge+vs+plexus

Nothing in the SDS PDF seems to describe anything like that. Where is that claim made?

I'm seeing that some of the advertising claims to protect polymers and resins, but it doesn't seem to say that it actually includes any polymers.

It contains a significant amount of solvents (25-50% naphtha), so it's not actually pure carnauba wax, despite what the label says.

https://www.homedepot.com/catalog/pdfImages/a1/a1eec4cf-efa9-43f8-b7c2-e7ea724735d5.pdf
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There's also some turpentine thrown in, and I'm not sure exactly what that is supposed to be doing in there.

Also, if I'm reading this right, it also seems to contain paraffin wax oil, which is not carnauba wax. Paraffin wax is derived from petroleum, not palm trees (where carnauba wax comes from).

That's exactly what I'm wondering.

Novus 1 is a cleaner, novus 2 is an abrasive.

You shouldn't be using them as a wax--neither of them is.

Use novus 2 sparingly--it is intended to wear down surfaces to smooth out scratches.

That's all PR, embellishment, and advertising. The facts are in the safety data sheet.

I understand folks wanting to be thrifty, but a lot of these products are cheap for a reason--most aren't even real wax.

Most are just a mix of Silicone and solvents--not real wax.

Again, not real wax.

[edit]: The manufacturer just posted about their product here:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-are-you-adding-wax-to-your-playfield/page/2#post-4404813

Polish typically means the product contains abrasive particles. Although, there are compounds that use chemical reactions in order to polish certain materials. I doubt that there is a chemical reaction happening, since the product is basically made of solvents and silicone, and anything causing a chemical reaction would likely be listed on the MSDS, especially since it would be a reactant ingredient (all its flammable properties and potential health hazards would need to be listed).

Well, that's a first. Pretty much every liquid spray & wipe wax I had seen so far was basically the same. I had no reason to believe this one was different when I saw it mentioned.

Can you share roughly how much of it is carnauba wax, and what the other major ingredients are?

Same here. I saw silicone mentioned in the MSDS, and I'd avoid it just because of that.

Silicone probably doesn't matter a whole lot when it comes to windshields and headlights. It does matter for playfield restoration.

That sounds like abrasive polish to me. There are different grades of the particles that do get used in polish (like the difference between novus 2 and novus 3), so it could be ultra fine particles being used in this product.

Yep, thanks for the legwork and follow-up

The MSDS showed 25-50% for plexus.

There are a few paste waxes that specifically say that they don't contain it.

I linked to it earlier in the thread.

Oh, thought you were asking for the MSDS for plexus.

There appears to be no MSDS's available for P21S or Blitz according to the databases I searched. An MSDS is typically required when there is something poisonous, flammable, corrosive, or reactive in a product--a lot of solvents fall under that umbrella. I don't think it's a coincidence that two completely different carnauba paste waxes don't have an MSDS published.

That's not correct. They are flammable, hence the reason they are listed on MSDS's.

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I'm aware there needs to be other ingredients mixed in, however, the only additives I'm aware of are the ones included on the MSDS's, since those are health hazards in some way.

I just tried emailing one grand to ask about whether or not blitz wax contains petroleum distillates or not, but the address bounced