If the layout and mechs are as good as Octoberfest, I’ll take one at 6k and re theme that badboy

Thundercats, He-Man & the Masters of the Universe, TMNT, Transformers G1 all great licences that cant be hugely expensive.

But saying that I’m up for new racing game especially if AP make the layout and mechs as good as Octoberfest, can always re-theme it

Oh it’s definitely worth taking anything K says with a pinch of salt the guys full of shit.

Mustang is actually a better game than most give it credit for, it’s not great but it’s certainly better than a lot realise. Problem with that game was terrible release code, terrible marketing and a really restrictive theme, should have must been a muscle car theme instead Stern tried to tie it together with a last minute cross promotion.

At this point I honestly don’t know why someone especially AP if they are doing Hot Wheels (a racing theme) doesn’t just pony up for The Fast and Furious licence.

Vin Diesel is super keen since his fallout with The Rock to expand the franchise, there’s a couple computer games coming down the pipeline which don’t exactly give the impression they have much of a budget but the licence has massive recognition and appeal something AP need on a release.

Might not be the most popular licence on pinside but it would do extremely well on route for ops and there’s more than enough pinheads whether they admit it or not that would snap one up if it was a super fast super smooth shooter with badass ramps and mechs AP are becoming known for.

Agree 100%

But I’ll recommend a couple themes: John Wick non stop action and cool scenes to draw from.

Fast & Furious more of action series now than racing tonnes of good action/stunt scenes.

The Matrix?

Predator, say no more!

Any of those with APs attention to mechs and rules would be awesome, if they could do a killer job of the art (isn’t Franchi with AP now?) use scenes from the films to help their lacklustre display work and they would be instant buys for most of us.

Knew he had gone somewhere just couldn’t recall where, thanks for the info!

Yeah 6 & 7 where venturing into superhero territory, 8 jumped the fuckin shark big time and was abit of a turd and I say that as a huge F&F fan.

God no! That movie was complete shit, The Rocks lost the plot, pulling down helicopters with his bare hands while holding onto the back of a pick up truck, garbage!!

Fast 5 is easily the best of the franchise, give me a pin based on that movie alone and I’ll bite your damn hand off

Has there been any sales numbers released? I gathered it wasn’t selling great which is why I’ll be surprised if this really is Hot Wheels and not just a code name for a AAA licence, surely 3 games in now AP need a massive hit!?

BTTF would certainly be a sales monster which at this point AP must need a hit release?

AAA licences would have a been a good suggestion!

They need a licence here and there that gives them instant market appeal, it’s how Stern sell out before they even reveal their games.

Couldn’t disagree more, I don’t see people bagging on AP at all, I see a lot of people who are hoping for a killer licence from AP that gives them a huge hit and a big seller.

If Stern was making Hot Wheels I’d say the same thing as I have in here, shite theme, but AP are not the leader of the industry either so they need a huge seller surely? It appears Houdini and Octoberfest didn’t sell too well so 3 titles in they need a monster hit and a universally recognised licence would give them a huge jump start with sales.

I think AP make some of the best games period but Houdini and Octoberfest just don’t cut it when it comes to mass appeal. I want AP to succeed pure and simple!

Did the info ever get leaked why F&F didn’t happen? Vin Diesel is a fan of gaming and pushing F&F into every form of media/entertainment and merchandise as he can...

And that’s why a world class accountant is priceless!

Vin Diesel is a huge gamer and geek, he also has more control over the franchise now than ever before, he’s branched the series out recently into a new video (looks shit though) a Netflix CG animated series which isn’t too bad my son watches it and he actually provides his voice and likeness for it. I’d be amazed if he wouldn’t be interested in having a F&F pin.

If Forza can get the licensing for 2 dozen cars from Fast and Furious for a £10 dlc pack then it surely can’t be too expensive.

It will be the actors and video/audio that will cost the pretty pennies, but you could edit a pin down to just include the must haves so Vin Diesel, Paul Walker being the big two, Tyrese, Ludacris, Michelle Rodriguez should all be a lot cheaper.

The Rock most likely would cost you the biggest, but with current NIB prices I think it’s a BS excuse that a license is too expensive, beatles has been done now and a pin with The Rock on would rack it in on location!

So where is this game on display? Any chance any pinsiders will be going by to take some more photos? Would love to see the playfield in more detail/head on.

Looks like another solid game from AP, certainly looks different from the photo we have, both Houdini and Octoberfest where great games physically but like this theme is the reason I probably wouldn’t buy for my home.

I do hope AP see massive sales/success with this release!

Where’s the damn Sharks!!

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Price Zach what’s the price man, people need that info..

Layout looks like it should shoot fast and smooth, kickback left of the right ramp entrance and drop target to the inverted loop being the only slow down shots.

Cool Zach, I’m curious to see US pricing so it gives us an idea what it might cost over the pond here.

A loop the loop, a corkscrew or jump ramp where no brainers for this theme.

Pop bumpers as pistons instead of cheap plastic tyres would have been nice.

Can someone post to YouTube for those without Facebook. Thanks.

Why spend all the time and money developing a new mech when you can use existing mechs and implement them in a fun way?

End result is almost likely the same but cost is way down allowing him to put even more in the game like all those LED control boards.

When games 1 and 2 don’t sell well, you either take a risk and throw everything into make game 3 a sure fire hit or play it a little safer and cut costs in case you have soft sales again, guess AP went with the safer option.

If it shoots as fast and smooth as it might look too and it does come out below stern pro pricing then I’ll take one to re-theme

AP don’t need to cheap out, at the very least they just need good to decent licences to grab that initial attention/the sweet nostalgic spot of the collector and licences that will make punters walk up to them in the wild and drop coin in them. AAA licences would cost them but also pull in sales sight unseen, it’s what Stern do successfully 3-4 times a year, it’s proven it works.

F&F would kill on location and plenty of pinheads would buy a super fast smooth shooter with that licence even if they say they wouldn’t because they don’t like the franchise, a butter smooth lightening quick shooter would sell and as for the location it would be huge the films have worldwide appeal and stick the rock on the translite no matter the cost and you would have a line queuing up.

Totally agree, I just put STLE next to BM66LE and the lightshow on STLE blows BM66 away, it’s a shame Stern stopped doing full RGB.

APs games have the goodies, they just don’t have the licenses to get them instant mass appeal, Stern realised theme matters and with a good theme and good art you can get away with a lot.