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Hot Line Help

By potgar96

8 years ago



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#1 8 years ago

Need help trying to get my tilt hooked back up on a Hot Line that the previous owner disconnected. Does anyone know where the wires go or have a photo to show me where everything should go ?

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#2 8 years ago

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#3 8 years ago

Hi potgar96
this (my) post is not much of a help - I do not have a Williams "Hot Line".
You have SS-Pins in Your collection - You have owned a "Full House" and a "Eager Beaver" and a "CARD WHIZ".
So You know about a "regular tilt" (pendulum tilt): ONE (of 1, 2, 3, 4) Player looses ONE Ball (and the bonus of / to that ball). A "severe / heavy / slam tilt": The pin shots-off, ALL Players loose ALL Balls / ALL loose their game. (You bang onto the coin door and the "Anti-Cheat-Switch" inside of the coin door opens).
A friend of mine owns a "Liberty Belle": http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1438 There the tilt is this way: If a player makes a tilt (too much nudging): That player does not loose one ball - he (ONLY that Player) looses his GAME (the other players can play there game - but HE is out).

Here: http://www.stevechannel.com/tiltmechanism.htm - picture-3 is a (coin door) heavy tilt - the "Anti-Cheat" switch.
Picture-4: They write "Joker Poker Playfield Slam Tilt" - I say: This is not true. On my Joker Poker this switch is to make a regular tilt (as a pendulum tilt) - This switch does CLOSE (Yes, my Coin-Door-Anti-Cheat-Switch produces a severe / heavy tilt, but this (coin-Door) switch OPENS).

The last picture shows a modern pendulum tilt and a modern "Ball Roll Tilt".

potgar96, please look for a "Coin-Door-Slam-Switch" (as in Picture-4), look for Switches inside the cabinet (Mech. Panel) and underneath the playfield. Please report - do You have such switches - do they and how do they work ?

When I look at Your picture (post-1) I do NOT see a SWITCH mounted at the "Ball-Roll-Tilt" - I do see ONLY ONE BLADE (of a switch). Therefore: One wire must be mounted onto / touching the frame (the ball rolls on) - a second wire is on that single blade. So the (rolling) Ball acts a "second blade" of the "Ball-Roll-Tilt-Switch".

I had a close look at http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=1245 -> schematic. I could not find a "Tilt Relay" . Pins with a "Tilt-Relay" usually cut the 24 VAC Power-Line ("Hot Line": BLACK), see (quite on) top of page-2. But there is only a switch on "Game Over Relay" and a switch on "Reset Relay" (no switch-on-tilt-relay).

On schema-page-4: Near the horizontal line YELLOW (outmost-left) I see mentioned "Tilt Sws." - that means 2, 3, 4 ... Tilt-Switches. And the relay (activated) is an S 27-500 - is it (page-3) the "Special Relay" ? Or is a stripe of schema missing ?
Schema-page-5 -> S 27-500 is exclusively used (16 times) for "Relay-Bank".
potgar96, do You have paper tags attached to the relays - telling the names of the relays -> is there a relay in the "Relay-Bank" You have never used (so far) ? - the Tilt-Relay ?

I had a look at 6VAC-lights -> Schema-page-1: I see a "Tilt-Light" - strange: wired with a switch on Game-Over-Relay and the "Ball Unit" - very strange.

Is "Hot Line ORIGINAL": Only "severe / heavy tilt" - and a preowner wanted to install a conventional pendulum tilt / ball roll tilt ? Please write: Do You have a schema ? / What Relay is activated by the mentioned "Tilt-Switches" ? Greetings Rolf

#4 8 years ago

Hello, been working on a Hot Line also. These 3 pics are of how mine is wired. // Error: Image 423373 not found //// Error: Image 423373 not found //// Error: Image 423373 not found //hl2.jpghl2.jpghl3.jpghl3.jpg

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#5 8 years ago

The second pic is the coin door and the third is under the playfield, mid way right.

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